Its 2011, why is this still happening?

We've seen officers without gear, Civilians humping hose...but someone on the roof? Its 2011, why is this still happening? Maybe I'm not smart enough to see the overall picture.

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Permalink Reply by capcityff on January 18, 2011 at 12:05pm

Wow. That's ridiculous. If he would have had any common sense and they both put their gear on, they could have actually went INSIDE the house and put what looks to be a very small fire out the right way. I guess they thought it would be more interesting to stand on the roof like an idiot and pour water in.

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Permalink Reply by joemac on January 18, 2011 at 12:19pm

In all fairness, we don't know what the story is, only what this photo shows.

This could have been a situation where only two vollies showed and one is on pump. Bystanders wanted to help...maybe the guy on the roof is the homeowner. maybe he's a volly and lives next door, thinking it made more sense to do what he's doing than to drive to the firehouse first. Maybe the next engine due has his bunker gear on it...

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Permalink Reply by capcityff on January 18, 2011 at 1:34pm

Well that one guy alone could have went in and put the fire out the right way.

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Permalink Reply by Trainer on January 18, 2011 at 2:52pm

A couple of things caught my eye; FF does not appear to have his respirator on and it looks like the guy on the ground to the right has a adult beverage in his hand.....{:

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Permalink Reply by Fireman Larry on January 18, 2011 at 3:40pm

it was my understanding, the home was under construction, the guy in the white shirt, was trying to stop the FF from extinguishing the fire, he went up the ladder and took the hose from him.

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Permalink Reply by Vic Silverfish on January 18, 2011 at 3:43pm

the guy on the ground to the right has a adult beverage in his hand...

You sure this picture wasn't taken in Australia? That's standard PPE for civilians during bushfire season.

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Permalink Reply by Jack/dt on January 18, 2011 at 4:31pm

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Permalink Reply by Derek R. on January 18, 2011 at 5:04pm

you beat me to it!!!

......some people.....But really...defending an unsafe act? Who cares what the circumstances were, dude shouldn't have been on the roof with NO PPE on. Be he the chief or whoever. No PPE...no work.

And our friend with the powersaw......eek.

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Permalink Reply by Patti Walz on January 18, 2011 at 5:36pm

All I am going to say is WOW..... The guy with the PPE should have kicked the other guy off the roof...

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Permalink Reply by Pararescue on January 18, 2011 at 5:54pm

You cant fix stupid......

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Permalink Reply by Jack/dt on January 18, 2011 at 5:56pm

You can't fix stupid but, surprisingly, you can promote it.

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Permalink Reply by Lee Ashby, Jr. on January 18, 2011 at 6:18pm

WOW....so much for command and control! First the 'bystanders'(even if they were volunteers and showed up to the scene WITHOUT PPE) should not have been that close, Second, any active fire fighter like the one on the roof who was in PPE and conducting fireground work, should have escorted the 'bystander' off the roof safely, set up a hot zone and warned them not to come back into it or action would be taken. Not to mention a LEO walked up and was not helping to move the 'bystanders' back to a safe area. Third, if the 'bystanders' were fire fighters, I would be asking for thier gear and department issued equipment and suspended them for 7 to 30 days and made them take retraining on PPE use and fire ground operations.
There has always been something that has stuck with me since US ARMY Basic Training "Safety First, Safety Last, Safety Always!"
Plus like a Chief earlier mentioned, SOPs/SOGs could have helped prevent this.