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Hello one and all...I tried to do a search and couldn't find squat...I have been "volunteered" by my Chief to help with the Color Guard for our parades and "special" functions...The basics aren't hard to find like number of members and positions of flags and the protocols....BUT...Our Department has in the past used rifles in the color guard unit and many wanted to use highly polished fire axes....some say it has to be a weapon...others say axes are acceptable.....OK...see my problem....anyone know where I can get something; preferably in writting clarifying this...? Not sure where to go to next, hopefully someone here has experience in this area....Thanks in advance.....Paul
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Permalink Reply by Paul Montpetit on
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Guess no-one knows any more than I do.....LOL Thanks anyways folks.....LOL...Take care and stay safe.......Paul
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Permalink Reply by Brian Mackie on
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Sorry Paul, if ever there was anyone who I wish I could help out, it would be you. Since I live in Canada, I just don't know the protocals down South. I do know, however, we consider axes weapons. lol and I personally like that idea instead of the guns. I think, leave the guns to the military and police services, and use our own tools of identity in such an important situation as yours. How impressive would that be to the family and fellow brothers and sisters attending? Excellent idea as far as I am concerned.
Again, sorry I can't offer up anything of value here. I just like to yap!
Good luck!
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Permalink Reply by John Crabbe on
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I think, leave the guns to the military and police services, and use our own tools of identity
I agree.
Every Honor Guard unit for the fire service I have seen around here uses axes and pike poles vs a rifle. However, i do not think there is any written standard, but like Brian, why not use symbols of OUR job?
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Thanks for the help, I do appreciate it.....I was able to get 2 very nice and extremely polished fire axes (Aluminum) made for the Department but the "old geezers"(older than even me) started to bitch that it wasn't a weapon and therefore could not be used....I even demonstrated that they could indeed be a weapon by threatening to part their skull with it......then it was recommended that I get information and bring it back to the meeting for a decision.....on the way out I told them that I tend to agree with them...that the way that THEY swing the axe it surely was not a weapon or even a threat.....LOL
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Permalink Reply by Matthew Voges on
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The hard part of Color Guard is the movements, and walking in the wind. So practise alot!
FF/SGT Voges
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Matthew....that's the easy part (12 years military service)...Hard part is finding the regulations pertaining to Fire Departments....
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Permalink Reply by William Bills on
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We use axes.
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Paul, I am grasping at straws here, and came across this from San Diego.. there is a HONOR GUARD MANUAL that you can download at this site.. I have not looked at it entirely, but there might be some info for you. I hope this link works.
http://www.localf33.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page=H...
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Permalink Reply by Jason Brooks on
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I can tell you that 1500 honor guard members, all units with axes, at the national memorial is pretty impressive.
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Permalink Reply by Capt.Jocelyn Chiasson on
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Hi here we are using aluminum ceremonies axes instead of guns and our flags poles are brass ceremonies pike poles it just represent the fire dept. better than guns ... and beleave me it look awsome.
J.C.
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Permalink Reply by Andrew Richmond on
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Paul, I don't know the answer for sure but I do know that the Howell Area Fire Authority in Howell Michigan has a very active Color Guard and I am sure that they would be able to answer your questions. Chaplain Mike who is a member of FFN is with the Howell Department and he might be able to help you out.
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I agree...but I wanted to insure I wasn't going to insult anyone or not follow proper protocol....I have ontained 2 highly polished axes for the purpose....thanks all
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