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Question for Squaddies
A friend of mine is setting up a helicopter\ rescue/med-evac service in a remote, rural part of Australia. They will be dispatched for all MVAs and are looking at putting together some lightweight extrication kit to carry on their helicopters. So, my question to all you squaddies...what would you carry as the barest bones minimum of extrication gear? Remember, you don't have much space, and you are limited on weight. It's likely the bird will beat the ground response a lot of the time, and may be on-scene for some time before anyone else shows up. They already carry a full compliment of medical gear, and often carry a doctor (hooray, socialised medicine!).
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Permalink Reply by Wade Seely on
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The P-38 can opener, small, lightweight, and versital.
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Permalink Reply by Mike "Lapo" Lapotasky on
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Sawzalls. Anyone recommend that yet? Porta-powers are archaic and may not work on conventional vehicles. is this helicopter and air ambulance/rescue truck? That seems a bit much.
In all fairness, a small porta-pak and a combination cutter/spreader hydraulic tool is so versatile if trained upon well. Sawzalls, again are great.
Paratech life hammers, sawzalls, at least six points of cribbing (for two vehicles), the portable power pak and hydro combi tool, and a come-a-long should do the trick.
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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on
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I completely understand and respect the efforts of all of those involved. Unfortunately, I am very ignorant to the actual terrain and population of Australia. I ignorantly assumed that the terrain and density of population was much like some of the rural areas here in this country. Thank you for the education and forgive me if I offended you in anyway.
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Permalink Reply by Oldman on
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I don't know. I've been to been to some pretty desolate rural areas in this country, and I don't think I've ever been where it would take an ambulance an hour to get there.
Well maybe Big Bend, TX
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Permalink Reply by Paul Montpetit on
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How about a porta-power unit and some tools...ie sawzall...cable cutters, basic hand tools...? Sure they aren't Powered tools but work quite well if you train with them.....Paul
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Permalink Reply by Tom Griswold on
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At an EMS conference in Elko, NV, USA, they had an extrication class only using simple tools. The tools they used were: knife, cold chisel, sludge hammer, and a hack saw.
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Yes Capt. I took a recent updates extrication class and we had to do it with hand tools BEFORE we got to use the power tools....The only big issue is getting past the new "Nader" bolts in modern cars and of course the air bags...once that is accomplished it is pretty basic
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Permalink Reply by Chris Forsyth on
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I would consider purchasing a Hurst Cordless Battery powered combi tool. We were quoted approximately $7000 US from our local hurst tool rep. The combi tool weighs about 34 pounds.
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Permalink Reply by Vic Silverfish on
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Mate, you worry too much!
The Northern Territories, Western Australia, most of South Australia are basically empty desert. The numbers are staggering, the best way to appreciate it is to drive across it.
The Aboriginals have thrived in that environment for over 30,000 years. You our I would probably last about a day without rescue.
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I am forwarding this post to him directly! Brilliant!
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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on
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Hi-Lift Jack, hacksaw and a crow bar- we'll get into just about any car or at least make a good start well in advance of the primary rescue arriving some time later.
Alternatively, go a hand or foot pump and combi-tool such as from Holmatro.
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