Hi All,
I have some information I would like to get feedback on. We thought this one up but if anyone does a drill similar please let me know.

We started the drill in teams of four(4), full turn out gear, SCBA mask, and nomex hoods turned around backwards to obstruct their vision. We lead them into a dark room and were placed in opposing corners sitting down on floor. The SCBA are stacked in the center of the room dismantled and straps twisted into each other, with 100 foot of 1 3/4 hose intwinedwith the other equipment. The object is at "go" as a TEAM search the room find the packs assemble, donn, and operate the packs, and assist their partners as needed, after everyone has completed, follow the hose ( The correct way ) out of the structure breathing air.

We used this drill for training on 09/03/2008, we gave them twenty minutes to complete the drill. We received times from 8-12 minutes, from four groups. Please fill free to use this scenario if you are not currently practicing any drills , but send me feedback as to the functionality of the drill. If you are or have used a drill simuliar please let me know what differences you have built in. Here are some pics of our training, If you have any questions please feel free to email me and I will help you as much as I can.

"Pass it on" and Remember "Knowledge not shared is Knowledge wasted".

Train on,
Lt. Stephen Russell
Parkwood Fire Department
Durham N.C.

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Sorry, I forgot to thank everyone who helped in this training from set up to help with this discussion. Thank you all I couldn't have done it without you.
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this is a really good idea for a drill im gonna run it by my chiefs and give it a try ing my dept and will let u know how things go..and again great idea
That sounds interesting and fun. Every FF should be able to put their equipment on in the dark.
Thought you may get a kick out of what we did last night. I put on full turnout gear and crammed myself up underneath the engine compartment of our tanker truck in the dark, and our FF's had to don all their SCBA's and find me in the dark. Then they had to get me out from underneith the truck and drag me all the way across the garage (it's big) avoiding obstacles and to the exterior door. Minus heat, it made for a good drill.
Thats a very interesting twist I may have to try that out. Thanks for the reply
Thanks for posting this drill Mr. Russell. We did it here at my department a few weeks ago and got some pretty good feedback on it. You can bet we will be trying it again soon.
I had never done this type of drill until about 2 weeks ago. Our department's training officer set it up and after being completely frustrated by taking over 7 minutes, I realized that this can be an extremely useful training exercise for S&R teams, F.A.S.T./R.I.T. teams etc. Not only that, the familiarization that this exercise can bring to new firefighters with their equipment. We did this by splitting into two man teams, full ppe with hoods turned around we didn't use hoselines for guidance though. Our team would perform a search pattern through the rooms to find the SCBA's that were twisted, tangled and taken apart in whatever fashion those setting it up deemed. We would re-assemble the SCBA's to their intended order, change them out with ours and that was it. I think that it is a truly useful exercise.
Pretty cool drill
We have done similar drills in the past. These are always great since they are different enough that guys have a competition built in a can give each other a hard time. They even learn something in spite of themselves. We take our packs apart as far as we can. Bottles, regulators at buddy breather, tangle and not straps, etc. The more that they have to look for the more fun it is. Guys will find a part that they need and then toss other parts around the room to mess with the other guys. We have not done it as a team yet, good idea, we do it as head to head competitions.
We did something similar on my dept. We blacked out our masks and were set on one side of the station and our packs were hidden some were with the pass going off. So we had to listen for our pass and locate it were ever it was hidden. After locating it we had to fix at least 5 or 6 problems like straps messed up, tank unhooked from the regulator, etc. We had alot of positive feed back from it and a little frustration because it was found to be a little perplexing to do all of that with full turnout, masks, and gloves for some of the new ones.
i did a training similar to this but without the hose. I will try the hose next time THANKS! We use press and seal on the face mask depending on the instructor on just how many layers will be used. usually 2 or 3 will be fine.

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