So im sittin around the firehouse today not doin much and I hear one of neighbor departments catch a chimney fire. I got kinda excited hopin that we might go to this one seein as we havnt had a big fire for almost two months now. We didnt end up goin but anyway, let me get to the point. As soon as the tone dropped everyone got to listen to every single officer from that department get on the radio and put themselves in route to the station. When I say every officer, I mean every officer!!! I counted them. Then they get to the station and start the chatter again. The trucks put themselves in route, which they should, but every single one felt it neccesary to repeat the address back to county. Two of the trucks asked county for the numerics a couple of times and it got even better when their tanker told county they were in route FOUR TIMES!!! Of which, county gave them a response all four times. Finally the dispatcher had to say "Tanker 44, I've answered your traffic, your enroute time is (whatever the time was)" Next, every truck advised when they were in the area of the scene and again when they were on scene. Three of their officers asked county for a TAC channel after getting one on the first request. And to top it all off, Every truck told county they were clearing the scene, even though they all cleared at the same time, two officers finished it by telling county that "all units were available." The dispatcher must have been ready to pull her hair out after listening to these guys.

When my dept. gets a call, we make it a point to use the radio as little as possible so that radio traffic is kept down. Rarely do any of our officers put themselves enroute to the staion unless they are going to have an extended response time. Everyone is sure to listen to the address so that all we have to do is say "county, 1711 is enroute, 405 W. Jackson, Pri. 1" Thats just an example of course, but all traffic is kept like that, short and sweet.

Honestly, I think some guys and some departments just really like to hear themselves on the radio. There is really no need for the nonsense described above. So lets wrap this up real quick, Open your ears, shut your mouth, and dont tie up radio traffic with crap.

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Comment by Brian Dowell on January 22, 2011 at 8:16pm
My Chief always says "the less you say on the radio the smarter you sound"
Comment by Brian Dumser on December 14, 2008 at 3:40pm
Sounds like this F.D. needs to write some radio usage SOP's/SOG's and educate their people. Nothing like useless radio traffic!
Comment by Dustin J. Millis on December 14, 2008 at 7:52am
Shareef, I totally agree with the point about FF's needing the radio clear for really important stuff like maydays, evac, etc. I have one problem with what you said though. FIREFIGHTERS NEVER WORK ALONE!!!!!! I dont care what the situation is, no matter what you are doing, or how long you are doing it. WE DONT WORK ALONE!!!!!!
Comment by Trainer on December 14, 2008 at 7:45am
I think most of us have this problem; we do, but only by a couple of officers. I’ll ask this question, as I’m not sure how to fix it; how do you tell a fellow officer that not all of his radio traffic is not important?
Comment by Shareef Abdu Nur on December 14, 2008 at 4:20am
The most important thing to remember about radio traffic is that if a FF is calling a MAYDAY, he/she needs to be able to get through. many FF's use the radio like it is a telephone. The radio is not for conversations. It is for relaying/receiving critical info. On scene, FF's should communicate with their Officers and those Officers should be the one's talking on the radio to Command. We should keep the air clear and available for critical info(MAYDAYS, Evacuation Orders, Operating orders, holes in the floor, unstable walls, collapses, etc...). Yes, we need talk to dispatchers as far as apparatus traffic, but they appreciate limited chatter and so does that FF who is operating alone and suddenly has a heart attack, or who falls through a floor, or who becomes disoriented and doesn't have the air to waste to fight for radio time. If we do it for anyone, let's do it for that brother/sister who is scared and alone who needs that precious radio time.
Comment by Jenny Holderby on December 14, 2008 at 2:16am
Our 9-1-1 center dispatches for 17 fire departments. At times half will be out at the same time if the weather is bad as it was last weekend. When one department has a call, we often call on at least one other department for mutual aid, sometimes more than one. Each truck marks enroute. Everybody, dispatch & our ffs know when a truck has left the station. We often have communication between trucks while enroute but not often if we can help it. Every truck marks on scene when they arrive. Usually, we go to what we refer to as "fire ground" once we get onscene to communicate with each other.The officers monitor 9-1-1 from that point and the IC is in contact with 9-1-1. When we clear a scene, the IC notifies 9-1-1 that he has terminated command @ that site. Each truck marks up when they get back to the station. An officer will let dispatch know if we are available for service. Once everything is filled up & cleaned up, we notify 9-1-1 that all men and equipment are in service. They fax a print out of our times to the station and clear the call.
One department on a call doesn't always involve a "lot" of radio traffic but three departments all going to the same call makes for a busy dispatcher but we all hear who is enroute and know about how long it will take for them to get there. Our dispatchers don't seem to have much of a problem with the process. We all try to be curteous and keep traffic down which is why the departments all have a private channel or a secondary channel for use on scene.

Radio communications are necessary. I think notifying dispatch that you are enroute or on scene once is sufficient. Maybe they were having trouble with their equipment or were in an area where they weren't able to receive the dispatcher's reply.

One of our neighboring departments has a habit of not marking up when they leave their station. The rest of us, anticipating they don't have anyone to go since we haven't heard them on the radio, will head to our own stations. Often 9-1-1 will give them another alert. Then they notify that they are on scene.
A few departments will immediately go to the private channel after they leave the station which irritates the rest of us because we can't be nosey and listen to their calls.
Comment by lutan1 on December 13, 2008 at 10:01pm
We used to run a simplex and a duplex channel. (One was local and the other hit the repeaters)

The local channel was for who's responding to the station, etc- in other words used between members.

The repeater channel was for all official traffic. I believe the only traffic should be turn out and on scene and perhaps enroute stuff if it's affecting the response of other vehicles such as traffic.
Comment by Lou Anne on December 13, 2008 at 8:51pm
I totally agree with you. The radio traffic on our department seems to get worse when we have a big house fire then it seems that every other department is out at the same time and then you can not talk to dispatch for all the radio traffic.

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