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Vehicle Fire Operations - You make the call?
Please review the video link below (open it up to fullscreen) and then give me what you would have done differently if you were responding on the engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrB1p04p34w&feature=player_embe...#!
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Permalink Reply by Mike Mogg on
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Nope, never quite mastered the pipes. And yes, they are covered. LOL
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Permalink Reply by Tony P on
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Yes the bus is gone, no urgency to save it. Exposures are the concern.
The lack of PPE - that officer obviously believes that he is expendable, or usually wears his underwear on the outside.
Fires under power lines are always a concern for us, our initial training is on wildfire, we learn about powerlines. Power company can take up to an hour to get to the scene at times.
Probably would have attacked the fire from the camera side, and would have hit the pole first.
B Class foam.
One way to keep the fuel/water/foam runoff from going into the drain would be to use a short length of hose (we carry them for hydrant fill) half filled and capped, placed as a dam. Our pumper's container of kitty-litter would be dumped in the gutter at the edge. Should minimise the runoff. Call for the local council to bring sand and organise the cleanup.
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Permalink Reply by Bull on
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The differance is...if this was a volly dept....there would be ALOT of ridicule added about how volly dept's do everything wrong. But...thats just my opinion.....
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Permalink Reply by David Walker on
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Operation step one... pull hose charge lines advance to fire and not take a year and a half in staging! and step 2.. if you spray the power line... your going back through the academy....
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Permalink Reply by Nick Wilson on
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All else aside, suppose you that you are correct about the man in blue. Does being an officer allow him to run around like a child in a toy store. He had no PPE, there was a serious lack of man power, the firefighters attacking the fire(who should have, after removing exposures, started from the bottom of the vehicle, where the gas was fueling the fire and causing it to grow, instead of shooting water through the windows and on to the grass on the other side) had to focus on keeping the "officer" safe. We all have things to improve, but these guys were lucky they didn't have a lot more problems. The potential for a much worse situation was definitely present.
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Permalink Reply by Dale Karrick on
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First Engine on scene, crossways across the street to block traffic (pump panel away from traffic). All hose line guys w/SCBA. If a second company was coming in (as is with my department), they're coming in from the opposite direction to block traffic as well and stretch a second line, again in full gear w/SCBA. Power company would have been called due to the pole being burnt.
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Permalink Reply by Roy Walker on
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Biggest problem appears to be lack of command. Obviously the entire company needs a refresher in PPE. On our department every vehicle,pump ,truck or tanker, all carry a bag of kittylitter I see three trucks maybe more so let;s get the dam up to try and stop the fire from extending into the sewers and the gases down there. It appears that none of the units have a foam capacity so lets hope that call went in. I truly hope the lines were dead as has been suggested because if they are alive lets stop standing under them. The big problem is we don't have enough info as with most video's we don't know so we speculate and that is not fair to a department. With the exception of the officer in blue who seems to be definitely in the wrong.
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Permalink Reply by Oldman on
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How many bags of kitty litter does it take to stop 95 -125 gpm water and fuel?
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Permalink Reply by Darrell Eiler on
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I am not one to ever judge another department.... BUT No SCBA's, walking under power lines that have had that much heat and direct flame contact? Basics we seem to forget our basic firefighter skills and knowledge
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More than our pumper carries. More than our support truck and its 200 litres. That's why I'd be putting my trust in the half charged hose and the arrival of the municipal truck with a load of sand...
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That was my point. While "kitty litter" is a good choice for small stagnant spills, I doubt any department carries enough to contain the amount of flow which is produced at a vehicle fire illustrated in the video.
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