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Teeter Totter
Okay, will it teeter or totter?
Here is one for all of you technical rescue folks.
This was emailed to me and I admit that I don’t know the origins or circumstances.
However, as you can see we have two problems with this scenario: the piece of equipment tilted and the boom in the house.
Let’s for the sake of a good drill say that the reason that the boom did this is because the operator had a medical emergency and is still in the cab. In addition, there are folks in the house trapped.
I know its a lot to think about, but hey, have fun with it. This is not my forte, but the picture was just too good not to use.
Let us know what you would do and how.
Thanks and stay safe.
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Permalink Reply by Oldman on
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Let's remember our jobs.
On vehicle collisions, we don't operate the wrecker to up-right a vehicle. This scenario would be the same thing. There should be no attempt to upright the crane made by fire personnel. That's not our job.
To "simply retract" anything on machinery outside our area of expertise, might very well make the situation worse. Life safety is our job. Let the crane operators figure out how to upright the machine.
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As far as handling this incident, I don't believe we need to get that radical. The machine is resting on three points with two axis stabilized, that being lateral and roll. Secure the power to the house if you can. A heavy duty wrecker might be able to stabilize the machine, but it might not have enough ass to hold the machine from toppling based on attachment points and angles.
Persons trapped inside the residence are probably under ceiling debris, or possibly just can't exit the structure because of a blocked door. The mechanics are really not there for a real involved extrication. Of course, we can what if this all day.
The crane operator might be a little more difficult. Most are in perfect shape, (perfectly round) so we might have some issue getting them out of the cab. But still, a ladder, rope and a stokes might be all that is needed, if at all. The perfect shaped operator might only be unable to un-wedge himself from between the seat and control console.
Sometimes we can make an incident bigger that it needs to be. Sometimes simple is better.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retd on
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I would handle this call just like any other using my own acronym to help me remember all the steps...
SCARIE - PMS
S - Size Up: Large commercial crane overturned into a structure. First alarm assignment of a truck, 3-engines and a BC should be able to handle this without incident.
C - Command: cookie cutter stuff... 1st in engine Captain is the IC until the BC arrives, then the Captain goes to the Operations position (ICS...)
A - Assistance: this is where personal judgement and experience come into play... working with the owner of the crane, and a heavy wrecker and, if you have them, your USAR folks and you have a pretty good chance of resolving this incident, without making things worse.
R - Rescue: This is where you have to R/O entrapment or any injuries for the crane operator (doubtful) or the occupants of the house. Looking at the crane's position would lead me to believe that entry into the structure and stability of the crane is a non-issue.
I - Isolate: Minimizing those who enter the structure, turning off utilities to 'isolate' things that could hurt someone.
E - Evacuate: All non-essential people need to be removed from the scene prior to uprighting the crane...
P - Person Responsible: Get the crane owner and property owner together to coordinate and communicate what you are going to do to resolve the incident.
M - Material ID: While this acronym works with everything, there is no material to identify in this incident... we all know it's a crane that fell over into a structure but it's worth mentioning that making contact with the news media would be a good thing here considering that you might want to identify to the public that there tax dollars are at work for them and that you are always there when needed. This is definitely a newsworthy event that will make the FD look good in the long run, hopefully...
S - Safety: Assign a safety officer because if anyone gets hurt, don't you think it's a good idea to prevent that from happening in the first place? Plus it's an appropriate CYA tactic...
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Permalink Reply by Andrew Richmond on
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Never seen the SCARIE PMS acronym before.......do you mind if I use it also?
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Permalink Reply by Matthew Powers on
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Not another acronym !#@
A Abbreviated
C Coded
R Rendition
O Of
N Name
Y Yielding
M Meaning
Sorry Captain, I am going through school and I thought I was done with these for the summer!
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Permalink Reply by Richard Armstrong on
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The wrecker in my mind is just simply for stabalization to keep it from coming back over onto it's tires while people are working on the crane operator not to upright it as yes this is not our job.The only job during uprighting is maybe keep a truck on seen incase something else goes wrong during uprighting the crane.
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Permalink Reply by Firewriter on
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As always, excellent input!!
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Permalink Reply by Just Plain Craig Moyer on
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I just remember we needed to have our engine towed. When the wrecker was moving it the front end keep lifting up. Its was the largest wrecker they had.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Wamsley on
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Amen Brother! LOL
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Permalink Reply by Steve Allen on
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That's too easy Jason. I am the chief in Meeker, Colorado a small town in northwestern Colorado. I have three very good volunteers that work for Valley Repair, a mechanic shop and towing business. They have at their disposal three heavy wreckers. Most of the time when they hear a page involving heavy trucks, or like recently a concrete mixer on it's side with the driver trapped under it, they just jump in their wreckers and usually beat the first fire truck to the scene. I would use the wreckers to stabilize the crane. I have seen these guys upright semi's on there sides and set them gently back down on the wheels. We are very fortunate to have them around in our small town.
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Permalink Reply by Ron King (Fire Chief) on
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Im sorry but the picture looks like someone has been playing with the film.
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Permalink Reply by Jason Hoevelmann on
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Lucky!
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