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Company Discussion Series: Building Characteristics
What characteristics could you expect with this building?
Just about every jurisdiction in the country has a building like this one.
These are popular in the older downtown areas, especially in smaller towns and main streets.
Some of you may have fought a fire or two in a building similar to this one or done an inspection at one.
Based on your past experiences and this picture, what are some concerns you may have about this building?
How will those concerns determine your strategies and tactics?
What size lines and what conditions will you be looking for inside?
List your responses and share your experiences and thoughts.
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Doug on
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Solid brick construction; it's going to be an oven in there. You can't tell from the picture, but my experience with these types of buildings tells me that there will be HVAC units on the roof. Flat roof, probably tar and paper, will go up in a hurry if exposed to direct flame contact. That awning needs to go!
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Permalink Reply by Fireyladd - Retired Chief Sharp on
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Parapet Wall in front may come down. Many years layers of tar an roofing on the flat roof makes for ventilation fun. Extremely hot interior fires due to the brick construction. Depending on the amount of fire and the occupancy load you may need to ventilate by opening front and back doors before entering. Appears to possibly have a small room above the store that can cause access issues. Old wiring.
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Permalink Reply by Roy Walker on
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I'm expecting to find the vent system over the fryers going like a blast furnace.
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Permalink Reply by Oldman on
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It's hard to tell from the picture, but this appears to be a relatively small fire probably from the cookers. The smoke appears laminar with mainly steam from the C side and roof vents. The smoke appearing from the A side vent appears to be accumulated between a drop down ceiling and the roof.
The fans at the doorway indicate to me that they are either utilizing positive pressure attack, or they more than likely have the fire knocked down and are ventilating the rest of the smoke from the building to begin overhaul.
Yes, the HVAC could be on the roof, but they could also be ground level on the C side, especially if as it appears to me, that this building wasn't originally built as a restaurant.
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Permalink Reply by Dean Shrider on
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We got a mutual aid call to a fire similar which had multiple false ceilings and fake walls from remodeling over the years. After 12 hours on scene and 2 and a half million gallons of water and 22 dept on scene still ended up calling in an exavater to tear the building down to get it out. As the fire worked its way thru the old brick fire walls and into the connecting buildings. Needless to say we lost half a city block. As for response time the dept only had to go maybe 300 feet from the station. Wauseon ohio fire.
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