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How Many Ex Officers
How many of you in vol. dept have 10 ex cheifs 15 ex capts. and 30 ex lt. all trying to tell you what to do at a scene. Here in my dept. damn near everyone is a ex something and they all want to be the boss. I have even had them try to override the officers we have now. I understand that experiance counts alot in this bussiness im not new to this. Just trying to get some insight of how many go thru this also.
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Permalink Reply by Patrick on
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All of our Ex's normally leave after coming an ex.. We do have acouple they only step up when asked or needed..
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Permalink Reply by Just Plain Craig Moyer on
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We've only been a fire company for 60 years. Of the 10 chiefs we had, 2 are deceased, 3 are not active, 2 have been put out of the company and 3 are still active. Of the I guess 15 plus presidents Only 3 are still active in the company. I beleive 8 are deceased. I was president but haven't been to the firehouse in almost a year.
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Brown on
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Well the only ones you have to take orders from are the ones that are in office now but it dose not hurt to get info from the x-officers or if they try to just tell them to go threw the officer in charge on sceen and that you will only listen to him or her be safe out there
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Permalink Reply by John F. Woodard, Sr. on
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The Department that I'm currently with has a system in place in which over the course of five years you serve as an assistant chief and the finally to the rank of Deputy of the Department. The line officers are elected from the individual station for a term of one year and can continue if reelected. These officer just return into the ranks after they serve their terms.
It would seem to me that if they were the ones in charge at your incidents then they would be the one incharge.
Two roads to take here. Give them an order at a fire scene and see what happens. Deal with this in the station at an executive board level and if they do not like it thank them for their year of service but they are no incharge so they do not need to have input.
If the s*** hits the fan they will not be the ones to be answering questions just the current officer staff.
just my 2 cents
be safe
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Permalink Reply by Mick Shelley on
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You will find that many of the vol. depatments have Ex-Chief, Ex-Capt., but the bottom line is
that the Chief is the boss of the department, and the Capt. is the boss of the company, and a
Ex-Officer, Chief, or Capt, do not have the say of running fires, or meetings. They are no longer
in charge.
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Permalink Reply by PFC Harmon on
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We have ex chiefs that think they can still run the show and ex line officers like that, but the bottom line is they are not an officers and when they do something wrong it's not thier hind end on the line.
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Permalink Reply by Rescue601 on
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I would have to guess that you vote for your officers instead of having them appointed. To me that is the crux of the problem.
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Permalink Reply by Tim Wood on
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I have had some experiance in this sometimes are worse than others. someone will always be looking over your shoulder anyhow.
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Permalink Reply by Jason McDonald on
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I am a Captain in one Brigade and nothing in another. I have ran into people that are ex chief's or officers trying to run the show you need to listen to what they have to say (if you have time) and then decide if that is what you want to do or not. Your the one that will made the decision and your the one that will be at fault if something goes wrong so take the responsibility and remember your training and experiences and decide what to do. Also remember that if you make all the mistakes then you may not survive or people may die so you should take the time to learn the mistakes of others so you do not make that same one.
Too many ex people try to take over and they need to realize that they are no in charge anymore. Anyways, thats my two cents...
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Caleb, You are half right in what you are saying, and that is that you listen to the one that
holds the office at the preset time, however, an Ex-Chief, or Ex-Capt. is one who has served
their term, wether it is for two, three, or four year terms. After they complete their term, they
are concidered EX-Officers. This is primarily in the volunteer fire departments. An Ex-Chief,
or Ex-Capt. is not one that was demoted, or didn't know what they where doing. You can also
use the word Former Officer, it's one of the same.
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No big deal, I just wanted to bring you up to date with what is going on
outside your district.
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Thanks for the Invite Brother
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