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Permalink Reply by Blane Lee on January 9, 2009 at 2:30am

I am not gonna lie I have to go wiht the Bourkes and I know they dont do much if anything at all but strictly for the look especially after a few good fire and they melt and curl up but I also have a pair of ESS innerzone 2 goggles on my helmet that I wear on MVA I dont really like the shields due to the fact that stuff can go under it and also when your in a fire its already hard enough to see why do you need another piece of plastic in your way those air mask arent made cheaply....

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Permalink Reply by Krystle on January 9, 2009 at 2:37am

My FD did away with shield and went to goggles. When I was in FF1 the instructor actually told anyone with shields to take them off there was no use.We had goggles,eye protection,or scba depending on the drill. He said the shields are known to melt easy,crack, or break and they dont protect ur eyes as well as the above.

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Permalink Reply by Dustin J. Millis on January 9, 2009 at 3:24am

Geez, Tommy; tell us how you really feel. I'm not even the one that said it and I think you are being rediculous. Take some Zanex or Prozac or something and calm down

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Permalink Reply by Jesse 202 on March 4, 2009 at 2:04am

Bourkes have never met NFPA Standards unless used along with goggles.

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Permalink Reply by Jesse 202 on March 4, 2009 at 2:10am

On our dept. we have all Cairns 1044's with the defender visor or face shields.
My opinion.......Faceshields- Okay, they do wear out and fall down frequently.
Bourkes/Goggles- Perfect, wether firefighting, extrication or just training.
Defenders- Terrible, If you wear eye glasses very few slide down over them without knocking them off of our face and they are really difficult to flip down when new and with gloves on.

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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on March 18, 2009 at 10:16pm

I have never used the Defender shields,but I've always preferred the Bourkes over the faceshields. The face shield has always got in the way of my flashlight and I can't see through it when it's dirty anyway. The face shield has always managed to get loose and just slide down. Bourkes have never let me down. Yeah, they curl up when in heat, but that's the nature of the game.

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Permalink Reply by John on March 19, 2009 at 12:00am

Face shield all the way and I also have safety glasses if needed.

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Permalink Reply by sean krum on April 10, 2009 at 5:03pm

im trying to get a sam houston with goggles and bourkes

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Permalink Reply by John Rulli Jr. on April 10, 2009 at 5:23pm

Bourkes But they are useless after a few good fires

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Permalink Reply by Deanna on April 10, 2009 at 7:06pm

We don't have much of a choice. Our SOP is full face shield. It's a saftey issue, so it doesn't bother me that bad. It's nice to look more traditional, but what is more important?

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Permalink Reply by rfdjumper on April 10, 2009 at 7:16pm

I have Bourke Shield on my lid but in all reality, I use neither. Good old fashioned safety glasses for most exterior work.

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Permalink Reply by John Schander on April 10, 2009 at 9:15pm

Faceshield. I like them the best. Use safety glasses when needed, but faceshield for fires.

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