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personal vehicles to incidents.
my question to my fellow dingers, min.men( and women) metalheads and vollies. what does your RURAL department have for guidelines reguarding personal vehicles responding to incidents . im asking this to collect data, not to ridicule or critisize. thanks
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Permalink Reply by METALHEAD on
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in new york. you are issued a blue light card by the chief officer and are allowed to run a rotator on your vehicle. it is your vehicle and not an emergency vehicle. nys dmv rules apply.
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Permalink Reply by FF Nick on
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Below is a copy/paste from our SOG's in regards to POV's there's a few other things we have such as no clear strobes can be used (following the "Opinion" of the AG), park off the street as much as possible, on MVA's we ask them to stage somewhere close till the pumper can get onscene and do a sizeup so we don't have 9 POV's on a minor fender bender (that one really chaps the local sheriff's dept)
SOP 8-2
Responding In P.O.V'S
1. PURPOSE
A. To establish Fire Department policy when responding to an alarm or incident in your private vehicle.
2. POLICY
A. All members will observe all traffic laws when responding to an incident scene.
B. Red lights will not be used on POV'S unless authorized by the chief or ranking officer in absence of the chief.
C. Any complaints about misuse of warning devices will be investigated and appropriate action taken.
D. External red lights on pov's will not be allowed.
E. When a member arrives at the incident scene, he/she will not park pov's near department vehicles or in such a position as to obstruct traffic.
3. RESPONSIBILITY
A. Members will be responsible for the lawful and safe operation of his/hers private vehicle to and from an alarm or incident.
B. Members will be responsible to evaluate his/her physical condition prior to responding to an alarm or incident.
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Permalink Reply by Tom Priddle on
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I really think that it depends on your department. We are a career/volunteer dept. and we have restrictions. We do have personnel that live outside the city limits. Our 1 rule is out of town fire report to the station but do not pass up the fire to get there. Now We have a neighboring dept. that has an unbelievable amount of territory 120 sq. miles and they have 3 stations in 3 small towns. It is almost all rural responses for them and there all volunteer that live throughout their district. They basically have the intown responders bring the trucks and out of towners go to the fire. Also they have very few responders again huge area small dept. so they welcome all the help they can get no matter how they get there. Now I will say this ( back to our Dept.) No matter what at no time do we allow anyone to go on the interstate in a personnel vehicle its dept. apperatus or you dont go.
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In Illinois they are considered a courtesy light. People do not have to pull over for you and you have to obey all traffic rules and Reg's. No vehicle within the fire Dept. can have a siren (except the chief) in there personnel vehicle.
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Permalink Reply by Chief Dino on
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We're pretty spread out where I am, so everyone carries gear in their POV. In our dept, you can go stright to the scene if you would have to drive past the scene to get the truck or if the scene is in the opposite direction of travel. We're pretty good about getting trucks to the scene, our last major structure we had 4 POVs on scene and 2 engines and 2 tankers, still called mutual aid. Lost that one. . .
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Its pretty cool how most of us have the same policies and are very close on theory. thanks 4 the posts!
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Permalink Reply by Fireyladd - Retired Chief Sharp on
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we do not allow our firefighters or other agencies responding on mutual aid to respond in their own vehicles. You respond to your station get on the apparatus and respond to the call that way. The only exception is if all equipment is out you can contact the duty officer and you may get asked to come out to the call in your vehicle with your gear after you have gone to the station. That is the only time. Then you would park away from the incident and check in with the first fire officer you see ,be accounted for and assigned to the call.
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Permalink Reply by T.J. on
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We can respond in our POV's to a scene but the first FF on scene picks what side of the road we're all going to park on and everyone else follows that side of the road in a line, so we don't have a massive road hazard and so fire trucks still have room to come down the road.
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we tend to stay on the scene side as far as parking. far enough as to not hamper the scene. obviously to eliminate the pov's is the prime thing to eliminate the rest.
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