I Just started volunteering at a department 40 minutes away that I knew little about previously. I've noticed on numerous visits to all 4 stations that every apparatus bay door was up at each one. I was able to walk inside each station in plain clothes. Once I walked right through the bay and into the living quarters only to discover everyone was out on the engine staging at some planned event. When I returned 30 minutes later to find them in quarters, one of the FFs told me to go wait for the captain inside as if he were suspicious of me looking at one of the trucks. Some of the stations also have ALS ambulances assigned there.
This makes me very nervous considering today's climate and the fact that I am very security obsessed at home. I hate the idea of people being able to walk in and out or sneak around. Perhaps hide and wait for us to return. I cringe as I run scenarios in my head.
I know the department in my county, which I grew up around, has a policy requiring the doors be kept down at all times. I also know of a foiled plan to steal a fire engine in this county, an incident where a bunch of bunker gear was stolen out of a rural station, and recently a teen had a joy ride with lights and siren in a reserve engine.
So the question: What's your policies, and and also your habits? I am new at the department and feel awkward asking questions, but this is a dangerous practice.
Our department is in the middle of a hamlet of 200 people with a total annual budget of $16,000.00, running a average of 70 fire calls. There's not much to steal if they want it. Like I said earlier, for the larger departments, I would agree to keep the doors closed.
Permalink Reply by KARL on November 30, 2008 at 4:57pm
It's a good practice to close the apparatus doors whenever there is no one in the station. On my paid dept we are not allowed to have the bay doos up unles we are leaving or coming back from a call. On the vol dept,it's would be hard to close the doors when leaving on a call unles you have a remote for the doors considering the station is on a main roadway. But you are right that it is a safety concern..
Our bay doors are always closed when nobody is in the fire house. Even if we are on the 2-nd and 3-rd floors, the bay door is always closed. If someone wants to get into the firehouse when us members are on the different floors, all they have to do is ring the door bell. You gotta remember, there is so much gear inside and on the fire trucks that cost a lot of money, that why we keep our bay doors closed.
At our dept. we leave the doors closed and we lock them. Everyone that is a member has a key to the entrance door. After we start the apparatus that give us plenty of time to unlock the slide lock and open the doors and don our gear, all this while the air pressure builds. The only set back is that while we are on a call the doors are left open, unless a member shuts them if we are out for an extended period of time. I wish we had automatic doors that would open and close at the push of a button, but we are just a small volunteer dept.
Yup, leafblowers, they do work very well in brush/wild land fires also work great as electric brooms for cleaning the bay. Chain saws, hand saws and many other small tools seem vanish if they aren't locked up.
Well since I work on a Military base we have some more sense of security than most. Most of the time we leave our doors open during the day with the exceptions of summers in Texas or aircraft are parked out front. The doors are closed by night fall. As I said I'm on a military base which puts us near the airport flightline and since 80% of the time someone is in the station, security is always roaming around, so in the event that the station is cleared,ie for dual training or a major incident eyes are around to watch things.
Of all the depts. I have been in, we always kept the doors closed and locked . If we were having a meeting ,training ,then opeened, but while we were on a call then someone would close them usually the asst. chief . This one dept . we had kids breaking in all the time .But took food out and cooked it on trhe stove . LOLwe even had drinks taken out of a coke machine . That was just some of our support money we got ,after the coke bill was payed .Butnow they lock it up tight .
Are doors are usually closed, unless we are in the bays and it is warm out. I personally wouldn't leave the doors open if we were not there. That is just me though.
Our department we have to have the bays closed when not out in the bay. During the day when it is warm we keep them open all day until 8 when they have to be closed. But if we leave the station they are to be closed.
We leave our bays open during the summer days when it is nice weather and there are members in the house but being from Canada they aren't open often in the Winter unless we are responding.