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Personnel Committee
Does your department have a "Personnel Committee" that deals with department issues such as FF discipline? Do you have something else along the same lines? Who does it consist of or who should it consist of?
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Permalink Reply by Kimberly A Bownas on
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We have a Board of Directors that consists of members of the department. These members are elected onto the positions and there are 6 Board of Director seats. Minor disciplinary actions are pretty much handled by the officer that the problem was brought to and the Board is notified about the incident and the action taken. Anything major is usually brought to them and they investigate and then decide on the appropriate punishment. This is what my department has had from the very beginning and it has worked for the most part. Hope this helps...
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Permalink Reply by Trainer on
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Prior to forming it was all officers, we had to deal with a personality conflict once, which nobody likes, so we formed a specific committee. We felt this committee needed to be somewhat diversified and now consists of the AC, 2 officers and 2 FF’s. This group deals with any problems dealing with individuals and also recruitment interviews. Their findings are then passed on to the chief, where he makes the call to either resolve or bring in front of the officers or maybe even the membership. Bottom line is it takes away some of the BS a chief has to deal with, and gives you a specific protocol to follow for incidents like your last post.
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Permalink Reply by anne potter on
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As with Kim we have a Board of Directors...When things need to be in a close session the board deals with this....
First the matter is brought to them they discuss it then decide what to do they then decide if a punishment is going to be handed out...
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Permalink Reply by PFC Harmon on
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On my department the officers take care of most of it. If its a problem that involves rermoving someone from the department we will have another firefighter sit in.
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Permalink Reply by Butch McCurdy on
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In our Volunteer Dept. our top 4 officers handle all of the discipline problems.
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Permalink Reply by Eric on
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Our department uses what we call the grievance committee. When there is a problem that needs to be addressed, it is brought to the grievance committe chairperson and they schedule a grievance hearing. This works almost like court. The person filing the grievance is there along with the person supposedly violating whatever section of our by-laws. Then discussion between the two parties is held with the grievance committee, pretty much like a trial. The grievance committe decides whether the accused party is guilty of the violation or not, through evidence shown and then forwards the decision to the Board of Directors. The Board of Directors, like a judge, then decides what action to take against the accused party or parties. As a side note, things that happen in the firehouse, on the fireground, etc. are handled by the Officers and Chiefs. Disciplinary action can be settled by the Oficers and Chiefs and left at that, or they can also bring those actions to grievance as well. A good thing to remember is that working this way, even if the Officers have suspended someone from calls or whatever they decide to do, this does not mean that they are guilty in a grievance. If the Officers decide to go through the grievance process as well, they will have to provide the evidence that the violation has occured. Simpy saying that it happened because "I'm an officer and I said it happened" will not be enough. Hope this helps.
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Permalink Reply by Chuck Beecher on
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Same as Kim & Annie
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