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Comment by Ernie Scheinert on March 31, 2011 at 11:11pm

Evening...

Comment by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on March 31, 2011 at 7:54pm

It is SOOOOOOOOO COLD here - 100 F Degrees at 5 PM

Comment by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on March 31, 2011 at 6:22pm

Have you ever watched the extra footage on the movie "Sicko" from Michael Moore

in the extra footage someone discusses how the people are controlled...

and if people are HEALTHY, EDUCATED, and FELT SAFE all at the same time they would not tolerate a lot of bs from the governments...

thus limiting those 3 items increases the control "of the people"

Comment by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on March 31, 2011 at 6:19pm

Patti - I know the REAL WORLD - SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

MY HUGS AND ENDLESS LOVE TO YOU SISTER !!!

yes, I never watch the news... and I tell people don't tell me the shitty stuff that happens in the world - because it just makes me angry and homicidal !!!

my instructions "only tell me what directly is needed in my daily life"

from what I understand "US news" is fear based, negative event led - while other countries speak more of their successes and hope based events

Comment by Patti Walz on March 31, 2011 at 6:01pm

The whole thing just stinks. It makes me question myself. News....

I guess I am just having a bad day today.

Comment by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on March 31, 2011 at 5:28pm

Patti - I just saw your liability comment.

Liability - the man KNOWINGLY left his house - and drove - SICK - endangering MANY people on the road - instead of calling an ambulance.

Several adults (family members) ALLOWED him to drive.

The hospital could sue - and win - for damages to the parking bldg pillar on hospital property - that the man hit.

The man and his family FAILED to call 911. His family FAILED to drive him. Sad... then that they would consider it to be someone else's fault that his problems went from bad to worse... hmmm...

Comment by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on March 31, 2011 at 5:01pm

Oh Patti - don't EVER watch the news - it is one of the leading contributors to DEPRESSION !!! Don't listen to it, watch it, or read it EVER !!!

One of the first things therapists precribe to patients - DON'T FOLLOW THE NEWS - it leads to a multiplication of depression.

Comment by Sarah on March 31, 2011 at 4:42pm

I had a wonderful experience in our school's Anime Club...

Had some fermented soybeans... Yeah, they make ya sick. REALLY sick

Comment by Patti Walz on March 31, 2011 at 4:18pm

It sucks.... In Eugene the hospital there was requiring patients to be transported by ambulance from one door at one end of the hospital to another door and the other end of the hospital.... When my friend told me about that I was about as dumbstruck as she was. Grrr... sometimes I wish I did not watch the news. makes me upset.

Comment by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on March 31, 2011 at 4:11pm

Hey Patti... I know that hopsital well. Been there many times. I am also Adventist... and happen to live on the campus of their sister college/hospital - Loma Linda Adventist Hospital.

They have the same policy here - unless the patient can be collected with one nurse and a wheelchair in the ambulance bay or entry parking to the ER. They are considered a community incident - and thus proper care requires an ambulance.

The staff/ER is not equipted to manage patient care outside of the hospital - ie. gurneys, portable O2, meds, portable trauma kits, extra staff to manage patients outside and inside - such as backboards and sufficient people/training to do safe extrication, vehicle safety and fluid management, and proper safety gear for scene safety.

For a fleet of staff to leave the ER to go to the parking lot is considered negligent to the other ER full of patients. Not to mention creates a situation of possibly contaminating a bunch of medical staff from outside sources - like gasoline/vehicle fluids. They do not even carry rubber gloves.

While it sucks and it is sad - there are other matters to consider in the triage process - save one possibly hurt dozens?

This prkg garage (scene location) is not even within shouting distance of the ER - so how would the ER staff communicate to the ER staff on scene if needed? They do not have radios?

By the time the ER staff figured out how to collect items and mobilize to do patient care in the community - the ambulance would have already arrived on scene... and probably extricated the patient and arrived into the ER.

The reason the ambulance patches ahead to the ER is so that they can prepare for the patient - so additionally if the staff is in the street - no one is preparing the ER for the patient's arrival.

Hospital staff are a fish out of water in community patient care - and do not provide good patient care, in my experience - outside of their controlled setting. They are trained differently.

One of the ways our hospital/campus gets around the rules/problem is by having campus security "rescue" the patient in close vicinity to the ER. Suddenly, the campus security will report "I found this guy laying in the parking lot" as they carry him into the ER flung over their shoulder. Our campus security gets in trouble a lot for this because of "blood borne pathogeon management, immproper immobilization, and danger to self and others." But they do it because the time delay kills them too.

Since we are a medical school - lots of people roaming around are medically trained - so regularly we get to do random "patient care" in the surrounding few blocks to our ER. I have "transported" many in my personal car - and several I have called for an ambulance because the patient "NEEDED" proper immobilization, not just rapid transport!

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