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Permalink Reply by Norm Tindell on March 12, 2011 at 9:42pm

We also use the triple lay for speed.

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Permalink Reply by Jace Woodworth on March 12, 2011 at 9:49pm

municipal we use the triple lay, industrial we use the flat load and the minuet man load due to the height of one of our rigs...

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Permalink Reply by Vic Silverfish on March 12, 2011 at 10:00pm

Would any of you believe that we don't use any pre-connected, shoulder-deployed hose loads in NSW? Totally foreign concept here.

In the Rural Fire Service, all of the hose is stored rolled. We rock up to the scene, unroll however many lengths we need, and go to work.

There are reasons for carrying hose this way (locker space, small apparatus, safety) but it takes a bit of getting used to!

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Permalink Reply by Wade Seely on March 12, 2011 at 10:27pm

We use a flat load,but offset our dogears which allows for a cleaner lay by even one ff.

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Permalink Reply by James snapp on March 13, 2011 at 12:41am

My dept. uses the flat load. I like the tripple, but i've never tryed the minute man, I havn't heard of the modified minute man.

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Permalink Reply by FF Nick on March 13, 2011 at 10:07am

We modified the triple lay to put the nozzle in the center of the lay. Basically instead of making the traditional "S" that the triple lay forms, we just ran the nozzle between both hoses. For a while there was the problem of FF's just grabbing the nozzle and taking off leaving a pile of spaghetti at the rig. This way it forced them to grab all the hose and pull it all out. Not so much a problem anymore but we just got into the habit of doing it that way and it's stuck. It also helps keeps the nozzle a little protected and prevents the bail from catching on anything while pulling it out of the speedlays.

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Permalink Reply by J. D. Rinard on March 13, 2011 at 6:27pm

We use the traditional flat load. Not that many fires here to try other loads.

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Permalink Reply by NOVAFireman on March 14, 2011 at 12:38pm

That's what training is for. The fire ground is not the place to try new ideas and techniques.

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Permalink Reply by capcityff on March 14, 2011 at 6:33pm

I was thinking the same thing. If the fire ground is the only time that you pull lines then you have bigger issues to worry about.

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Permalink Reply by Doug on March 14, 2011 at 8:34pm

My Dept. uses minute man on all preconnects

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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on March 14, 2011 at 10:19pm

A common modified version of the Minuteman load is a 200-foot preconnect with the bottom 100 feet in a flat load and the top 100 feet in a Minuteman. That lets the nozzleman carry the Minuteman while dragging the flat load. When the flat load is completely stretched, the Minuteman still gives you 100 feet of working line past the point where the flat loaded hose ends.

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Permalink Reply by John C. Querin Sr on March 15, 2011 at 2:28pm

We use flat on our structure appratus and many combinations on all of the apparatus used in support rolls.

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