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I'm not here to give an opinion.. just to pass on some interesting info. I recently was meeting with a detective of a Texas sheriff's ofc. He was telling me that they had problems with a vol ff..due to his felony background upon telling the Chief that he had to release this guy from the dept, the Chief told them that was not their concern and he was keeping the guy.The sheriff's off.came back and told him that he would or else be shut down...How is this possible?? The sheriff claimed that as the Fire department received Federal funding, they must comply with their guidelines... The Chief complied immediately.
There are several questions that should be answered first:
1. Why were you meeting with a detective?
2. Why was he telling you about a personnel issue within the dept?
3. Who told the chief, you or the detective?
4. Was a background check done prior to this individual becoming a member of the dept?
5. What kind of federal funding was received?
6. What is the standard method of funding the dept? (tax based, fundraising, seperate entitiy)
Quite frankly there is probably more to this issue than a simplistic answer you are seeking. In some places law enforcement may have a significant say on funding etc. I know of a place where the law enforcement operates the EMS aspect as opposed to the fire dept. Funding for things like HAZMAT and USAR in this state is handled by the state Dept of Justice, an arm of LE. So there may be rules in place depending on how the dept and funding is comprised etc. There may be an aspect that a background check should be done and wasn't. There are just too many variables to give you a definitive answer you are seeking.
John,
Apparently you didn't quite get my message...first I'm not seeking any answer...personally I have no worries...my background is clean.
Secondly, my meeting had nothing to do with fire departments...I'm an Investigator and we have a mutual criminal case.
This was not my department. It was not a personnel issue within the department that he shared..it was only general information that is actually public knowlege...I didn't even ask what department or who it was...As I said, I was just passing on some information that was shared with me that I found interesting.
No Kim, I did not quite get your message, hence the reason for asking questions. However, you were seeking an answer if you posed the question "How is this possible??" of which more information is needed in order to be able to get a better answer to your question.
I don't care about your background, I was asking about the person with a felony background and if a check was done prior to the person becoming a member. If a dept is to do a background check and doesn't, then it leads to more questions. If a dept did do a check and the person was clean, then the crime occurred after they were a member. If they did a check and the criminal record was there, it leads to questioning the judgement call of the dept and their reasoning for taking the person.
I question as to why you are speaking with a detective because I have no clue as to your involvement with the dept and as to why you are asking the question. It seems odd that a member of a dept would be talking with a detective on an issue that should be going to the chief in the first place. You did not make it clear that you were not a member of the dept which leads to some confusion and this clears things up more.
In the end there is still going to be variables that make the determination as to "how is this possible?" in order to give a definitive answer. Again how the dept is set up, funded, why they are getting federal grants, background checks etc, all play a part.
These guys or girls are not in the Fire Service persay,
They are a inmate crew of guys or girls who are a low securiity risk. They have a probation officer with them can be locked up and sent back to prison in a heart beat.
They have nothing to do with the fire service other than they are trained by and lead by a Firefighter when they are sent out on a wildland fire.
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