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Age and The Ability to Perform
Should a persons age be a facture in determining if they can or cannot perform certain tasks for the fire department? What about a persons weight? Or should it be if you can perform your task performances in the allotted time no matter how old you are or how much you weigh? I have been reading a discussion (and participating in it) where if you are older you are more stubborn, and over confident in your abilities. What about those who are younger fresh out of school and academy should that same comment apply to them?
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Permalink Reply by Patti Walz on
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An overview of the 90 firefighters that died while on duty in 2009:
•The total break down included 47 volunteer, 36 career, and 7 wildland agency firefighters.
•There were 6 firefighter fatality incidents where 2 or more firefighters were killed, claiming a total of 13 firefighters' lives.
•16 firefighters died in duties associated with wildland fires, compared to 26 such fatalities in 2008.
•Activities related to emergency incidents resulted in the deaths of 57 firefighters.
•30 firefighters died while engaging in activities at the scene of a fire.
•15 firefighters died while responding to or returning from 13 emergency incidents in 2009. This compares to 24 responding/returning fatalities in 2008.
•10 firefighters died while they were engaged in training activities.
•14 firefighters died after the conclusion of their onduty activity.
•Heart attacks were the most frequent cause of death with 39 firefighter deaths.
“Heart attacks were the most frequent cause of death with 39 firefighter deaths.”For 33 years, USFA has tracked the number of firefighter fatalities and conducted an annual analysis. Through the collection of information on the causes of firefighter deaths, the USFA is able to focus on specific problems and direct efforts toward finding solutions to reduce the number of firefighter fatalities in the future. This information is also used by many organizations to measure the effectiveness of their current efforts directed toward firefighter health and safety.
The National Fallen Firefighters Foundation, which worked closely with USFA on this report, also maintains a list of firefighters who die in the line-of-duty and are honored during the annual National Fallen Firefighters Memorial Weekend held each October in Emmitsburg, Maryland. Visit www.FireHero.org for more information about the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation and their assistance to the families of the firefighters lost in 2009 and beyond.
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Permalink Reply by Jack/dt on
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Your gut tells you we would butt heads but really it was a self-fulfilling prophecy. Having taken a dislike to my profile (and equally, to my responses) you really just decided you didn't/wouldn't like me.
I'm in the bay right now, nearly inconsolable.
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Permalink Reply by Gregory Borg on
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Remember there are about 2 million volunteers, and only about 230,000 paid.
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That would be too many not to many. On the east coast they can spell.
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Permalink Reply by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on
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So the questions this illicits is what is the ratio of career vs. volunteer compared to number of each who serves, number of calls run by each, and type of calls run by each? This includes number of miles driven, average time in the fire service, average amount of training, average amount of time on calls, and average age to name a few factors that imapct the true analysis of this issue.
I look forward to the next decades when people can research this matter more expansively and start ferretting out more focused individual factors and make changes to the individual problems.
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Oh brother.
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John,
Given that there are nearly 4 times as many vollies as paid it's fairly obvious that the percentage of LODD on the vollie side is going to be significantly smaller. I think the better metric would be to see the LODD rate per 100,000 working fires, or per 100,000 calls (for the responding/returning fatalities.) Even then, for the latter, it really isn't comparable since the vollie LODD for R/R are almost always in tankers and POV's. Really, tanker rollovers and POV deaths are pretty much limited to volunteers. Although I'm not sure what this sidebar discussion has to do with the OP. Maybe inexperience/immaturity of drivers.
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Greg,
I believe the number of volunteers is around 750,000-800,000. The total for all FF's is usually given as around 1,200,000-ish. Although, I've always wondered if that number is a reflection of the number that are actually NFPA 1001 certified firefighters, or instead the number of all members in the departments. There could be a significant difference between the too. For example, it's often stated that for every mouse you see, there are ten that you don't. It could be the same with volunteer departments, 1 actual firefighter for every 10 members, overall. I'm just sayin...
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That is a lot of work, only justified if we take the information and do something possitive with it. Like eating better, exercising, wearing SCBA's, seatbelts, risk assessment, annual medical exams, etc. But, we can do all those things now, I would encourage all who read this to take action and not be one of the statistics. Be safe, train hard.
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Yeah, I think you are right. After I entered that I thought I might be off but we caught a run and I could not repair my damage.
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i hope it gets done - and if it prevents even one firefighter from being injured - then it is worth it to me...
and we certainly know - it will change practice and save lives
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Remember Patti, we are a surley, bad mannered, over confidant and generally obnoxious group. Sometime known as firefighters.
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