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James M. McHale said:
Our midtown Manhattan Company, Engine 21, was one of first wave of outfits issued a LL in the mid '80's. We drilled quite a bit on it--both in quarter's, & at FDNY's Randall's Island Training Academy.
However, despite our confidence in it, we were never called upon to employ it's use during the interval within which it was part of our equipment repertoire.
Jimmy McHale
FDNY, '81-'01
FF Emeritus
I worked with Pete Lorenzo in the 80's. Our engine was obviously also a Lorenzo ladder company and it was also never used to my knowledge aside from drills. It could be used for water application or rescue. It was not designed to bypass a floor of fire but to possibly rescue trapped occupants by using the ladder from the floor immediately below the fire.
Pete was an innovative guy. He had ideas no one else though about. He suggested applying water through peepholes in doors of fireproof multiple dwellings by using a smaller tip. Less water was better than no water in his opinion. This would be for fires in which opening the apartment door would cause extreme heat conditions in the public hall (too hot even for handline) should the wind be blowing in. The type of fire that traditionally was "waited out", meaning we got in there when the fuel load had been decreased by burn time. Nowadays there is all kind of discussion and tactical changes concerning wind driven fires and alternate means of water application in these buildings. Pete was at least 20 years ahead of his time.
Jimmy, when did you leave 21 engine?
Worked in E-23 and also briefly in E-21 after you left.
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James M. McHale said:
Liberties, freedoms & independence continue to be trimmed left 'n right.
Scary.
What a crying shame.
Well, at least you know my name.
Gotta rethink these 'buff' sites/JMcH.I don't generally post anything incendiary but why take the chance?
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