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Chevrons on the rear of apparatus, your thoughts?
The 2009 version of NFPA 1901is going to mandate chevrons on the rear of apparatus, like they do in Europe. I think it's a great idea who's time has finally come. I'm sure many FF's and civilian's lives will be saved by this. We need to be visible out there. Some F.D's have been doing this for a while, (see the JPG below). What do you think?
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Permalink Reply by Mark Klaene on
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this is an important point, we are all supposed to be parking at that 45 deg angle so why is NFPA focusing on the rear of the apparatus. I see more and more apparatus and ambulances with flashing lights in the rear instead of rotators, thus providing less warning to the line of sight with teh driver
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I definitely am pro-arrow stick, I find them very valuable,IF they are set properly
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Permalink Reply by Earl Hoisington on
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I think anything for safety is ok but this is foolish. I've read some of the comments here and I want to know what happened to common sense. Years ago before this reflective strip on the truck we were taught to position the trucks to protect the scene but most importantly us. It's been stated and is true that it is cheaper and easier to fix or repair a fire truck than one of our own. My personal opinion is " If they can't see the big fire truck with all the flashing lights on it they aren't going to notice the Cheveron.
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Permalink Reply by Al (olddogg) Westbrook on
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Abso-friggin' lutely ! we just took delivery of a new heavy rescue for our department which has chevrons on the rear-a major improvement ! Most of our front line ,or first out pumpers have all aluminum treadplate on the back and when you are behind it your headlights reflect back at you . The only reason they have not been "upgraded" is the cost . Our local IAFF made the offer last month to buy a set of much needed Rescue Jacks for the heavy rescue unit-the assistant fire chief "found"the money somewhere to make the purchase . We may have to make the same offer regarding the Safety upgrades of the Chevrons next manth :).
Stay Safe , OLDDOGG@firehousemail.com
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Permalink Reply by k hig on
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Hi Earl
The easier you can be seen the more visible you are. The more visible you are the safer you are. Common sense is not available to all, that’s the world we live in. The comment about the fend off position was only high-lighting the advantage of the box pattern on the side of apparatus in the pictures. Why do you say the chevron will not be noticed, they really do increase visibility ten fold more so then the couple of LEDs on the rear. With all due respect one can use phrases such as "years ago" but one also has to remember this technology has been put in place for a reason and like all the other gear across the board it is been carefully watched, so improvements and development can be made along the path for a safer fire service right across the U.S. and Europe. People say "if it isn’t broke don't fix it" but if we all took this approach there would be no development in the fire service, if my thinking is being straight with me.
TCSS
Respectfully
Higgins.
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Permalink Reply by Fireyladd - Retired Chief Sharp on
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I agree Jack, its just down right fuggly!
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I would rather not assume but would like to see data
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Permalink Reply by JEspil on
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I think anything to improve safety is a great thing. Unfortunatly, if poeple are not paying attention while driving and dont see the flashing lights and strobes and everything else..what makes you think that cheverons are going to make a difference?
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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So are SCBA and brown aramid turnout gear fabric, but we use them every time we respond.
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LOL, just dont look at them. Make em wear a bag so it wont hurt your face.
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