So I was curious how cops and firefighters get along in your areas. They seem to get along round here, but I've been in other areas where they DO NOT get along at all. (Cops hanging out near the firehouses in hopes of catching a firefighter after having a couple drinks, arguing on scenes, etc.)
Just about as good as can be expected. We all do very well together. Each entity undertsand their boundries, and will help the other when needed. They will stop by during the day or night to relaz for a minute, shot the breeze, and just plain communicate. As I said, it's all about respecting boundries. Egos can play into things at time, as is the case in many other endeavers.
Cops who have to interferre with fireground operations either have attitude problems, don't belong there in the first place, or perhaps the fire department just may be their own worst enemy.
we get along pretty good, alot of us are friends. they're usually pretty cool, there's about 2-3 that will give you a problem. when responding as long as you don't drive like an a$$ they don't bother you. stay safe out there!
We get along pretty well with the state police, the sheriffs and the local police department. We respect each other and really work well together. I don't believe we have had any problems in the past....
Around here, and where I was at in Virginia as well, mostly they/we all get along. There are always exceptions but I've never really witnessed anyone going out of their way to be a jerk. Most of the time cops would come over and hang out with us when it was quiet. And lots of cops were also vol FF's and EMTs and some of our medics were also sheriff dept dispatchers. One big crazy family. :D
But I'd like to add that I dated 3 cops before I married a firefighter. Dating cops certainly wasn't as easy as working with them! lol
Permalink Reply by mike on November 21, 2008 at 12:45am
we share a building with our police department. we all get along pretty good with the city cops. its the state cops we dont get along with very often. im not sure if any body remembers seeing the video of a cop arresting a fire officer on the scene of an accident with injuries on the interstate in california because of where he wanted the truck parked but we had a very similar situation last winter, we had a car off the road way over and embankment, muliple occupants with injuries and our deputy chief was the only officer that made that call and he drove our rescue truck. well we got on scence and shut the road down cause it was going to take a while. and the trooper threatened to arrest every fire fighter on that scene if the truck did not get moved. needless to say we didnt move the truck, we worked to get the people out and on their way to the hospital and we left the trooper out on scene in the dark to direct traffic while the wrecker got the car out. so needless to say there was a long meeting with the fire department and the state troopers office..
That sort of thing shouldn't happen. But I often read cases on the web. We only have one police force in each of our states. No such thing as local cops. And as a State run Fire Service we run under a government law that allows us to close down a road if we think it needed for on-scene safety. Obviously if it's a multi lane highway then if possible we'll leave a lane open for the police to run traffic through, but safety comes first.
Where are all the people that have problems? We don’t, but 15 years ago we did. Back then, state police would get called from dispatch, they would tell them to hold on paging fire till they could investigate, well it took a couple of years to rectify this, you know its hard to convince them they are not trained to handle an MVA. If I remember right, the straw that broke this problem was a single car 4 occupants, we happen to be in route and were called off, no injuries. We continued had to do extraction and ended up transporting all 4, 2 were serious, haven’t had a problem since. Today we work great, we’ll help direct traffic, help with paperwork, we even popped the door at the last one so he could get the insurance card. One time at a lengthy scene, the investigator brought us doughnuts. Close the road, no problem, whatever we need, although we do have the authority to do so, wait and help the tow truck. Point is you have to get along, no room for turf wars here, suck it up, do what is right, act professionally, and do your job. These guys aren’t stupid, you show up at a semi fire with a brush truck or an MVA with jaws that don’t work won’t start or don’t know how to use them, your not going to get no respect. If you have a good reputation for handling scenes, you won’t have a problem. But…..there may always be that 1 that has a chip
yeah, there was a similar incident near my town last year. multiple car MVA, deputy chief told the engineer to park the apparatus across two of the three lanes. state trooper wanted two lanes open deputy chief refused to yield, engineer followed his deputy chief's orders. engineer was cited for refusing to move the truck (i don't remember the exact charge) as well as driving without a license (he had left his wallet back at the firehouse.) The deputy chief was arrested and the chief had to go bail him out of jail.
Ultimately all charges were dropped.
As far as I've heard, it's the police's scene to run unless there's an actual fire. (i'm not clear on who's in charge in cases of entrapment.)
Cops and firefighters get along great in my part of upstate NY. There are a couple around those that think they are incharge of a fire scene, but the tend to get straighten out. Mostly the rookies are that way.