Yup, I wana see the urban assult vehicles that everyone is running to fire and ems calls. especially with what everone is running to move traffic.
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Wow! ThankYou, Greenman. You are 110% correct. That was the most mature response on this discussion.
we are not permitted to respond to calls in our personal vehicles. if we don't make truck, we don't make call. in fact, in the state of illinois, if you are running a blue light you had better have verification that you are fire or ems, and have a document signed by your chief stating so. our chief simply refuses to allow us to run blue lights. some idiot ruined this for us all by getting over anxious to make a call and ran over some kid who ran out in front of him, because he could not slow down in time to avoid him. he was clocked at 87 in a 35 if i recall correctly. now not only did we have a structure fire, but a casualty as well. the boy was 9. barely a start in life. let's think people. i understand the adrenaline rush, but the lack of common sense this driver had still baffles me.
Makes sense for your department and the circumstances following such a tradegy. Like I said in an earlier post, every department is unique.

Is there a plan though for when you need all the manpower your department has at a call? Can they respond at a non-emergency pace, or would they need to be shuttled to the scene in school bus, or other city vehicle.

I ask this because we had a fire in a tire warehouse that burned for three days once and FFs from several departments drove up in both department vehicles and POVs to work on that one. We also had a "Log Home" which burned-down about two years ago and it took several hours to get that thing extinguished and several more to overhaul it. Exposure protection was a major issue in that one (the woods are worth a lot of money in Georgia...). The Assistant Chief and I pulled the reserve Engine out and sat at the station while everyone else was working the "Log Home Fire."

I'm not critcizing anyone's SOPs or policies, I'm just curious if they include a plan for "The Big One" when your department has to execute a Recall, or just needs 15 FFs at a fire when there's only 12 seats on all of the apparatus. If it's 2300 on a Friday night it's going to be hard to make a plan on the fly without throwing the policy out the window... Ypou may never need it, but it's good to have it in the SOPs just in case.
These are all good points but you must remember that there are alot of smaller depts out there that can not afford the "BIG" rigs that some of the depts that have are funded from larger tax bases. And if a dept is running commercial cab and chassis style apparatus (two man cabs) then getting personel to the scene may require them to drive personal vehicles to the scene. Remember we are all here for the same reason (or so I like to think we are) and it really shouldn't matter what kind of equipment we use or how we arrive. I have been to mutual aid alarms for departments on both sides of of the fence and I would put my life on the line equally.
I have a 2006 Chevy Colorado. (no pictures, wife apparently moved the files)
No socks??? eeeeeeeyouch! I wear socks AND duct tape and my heels still peel off in my bunker boots!
I just drive an ugly little 1995 Ford Ranger. No lights, no bling, no nothing *sigh* I have never seen anyone here in KS with lights on their PV, so I don't even know if it's allowed! We generally respond to the barn, but if the trucks are already out or if it doesn't make sense to drive to the barn first (and/or the trucks are all out) we drive our PV's to the scene. Speeding is not encouraged to the barn or the scene and if we are involved in an MVA, we are on our own!
Your boots are too big!
But my toes are scrunched!? My feet just aren't built for bunker boots. We are hoping to get the leather kind instead of these nasty rubber ones we've been using.
I wear leathers for the same reason.Plus the rubber ones are twice as heavy.
And even with this method of having to respond to the scene in an apparatus, whats stopping "joe once in a while" from responding solo to a big fire, removing the option for a copiliot? POV's to the scene are a necessity at times, and can still become a major hinderance for those tight long winding driveways. Positioning apparatus should be key with POV's being kept back far enough from the scene as to not cause a major clogging of the flow of apparatus.

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