As everyone knows the law if you are in a fire dept vehicle responding emergency traffic to a call if you have your lights on you much have your siren on.

It is there emergency and plus its our safety.
One of my fellow members stopped me last night responding to a apt fire saying it is a curtious thing that we do
I respect his arguement although I am worried about my safety and my ass getting there and not worried about waking a whole neighborhood up

I was taught this and i will continue to do so

What is yalls opinion

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Comment by Sam Smith on October 28, 2009 at 9:17am
well dan if this can be a good thing or a bad thing but personally i agree with you. he should have told you
Comment by Rusty Mancini on October 28, 2009 at 12:09am
You should follow your state's regulations regardless. It's the unexpected things that could happen to you while responding to a call. You can bet that a good attorney will have the regulations in his hands, while you trying to explain, why you didn't follow them!
Comment by Dan Stevens on October 27, 2009 at 3:14am
I agree 100% with the opening topic here. My fire chief orders us to go code 2, ( Lights only) for night time emergencies, when, well its an emergency and lights and sirens is the proper way to respond (Code 3) is there an NFPA regulation to this because I would love to show him that he is in the wrong majorly. Also, I have 1 question off this topic. At our fire dept. Vol. We have a 6 week probie period before you get a pager and can resond to emergencies, Our chief just decided to bring in a new training officer, without letting any of us know this was happening and make him a full out officer. Personally I do not agree with this, what are your thoughts?
Comment by lutan1 on October 27, 2009 at 3:12am
Who is responsible for the vehicle?

The driver.

If you're the driver, then you make the call- no one else. Ever.
Comment by Joey "BigShow" De Piano on October 27, 2009 at 12:30am
I feel its a matter of the call Bro.. why go sirens and federals blairing at 3am when there is less traffic to wires down?..all we can do is stand by till elec company arrives which almost any where is a 1-2 hour wait.why wake up the town responding to that? if you have just cause to go balls to the wall for a call then by all means light em up
Comment by Adam L. Culp on October 26, 2009 at 5:39pm
I ,myself use the sirens,horns ,ect.. any chance i can..but I live in a small village in southern illinois..
Comment by Art "ChiefReason" Goodrich on October 26, 2009 at 12:27pm
If you are in a state that allows discretion, then use it.
If you are in a state that requires both, then it shouldn't matter what time of day it is.
If you are on a department that doesn't know, then educate them.
If you're asking just to be asking, then you have your answer.
TCSS.
Art
Comment by Palmyra Chief Donaghey on October 26, 2009 at 12:32am
As per USDOT ,Emergency Vehicles on a roadway that receives any FEDERAL monies for maint., or construction must have emergency lights visable 360 degrees and a audible siren in operation in operation when traveling emergency traffic to a scene. Cover your butt , its hard to know what dirt road has been built with Fed. money. The term linked to vehicle speed is (The driver must drive with due regard.) pretty vague isnt it........Fed laws trump local and state laws...........talk to your training officer. Also when you get permission to use lights n your POV check with your ins. company , you may have to buy a rider or get dropped. Remember the Venessa K Free Act is a Fed Ruling. My Firefighters can be terminated for violations. Stay Safe/ Play Hard
Comment by Sam Smith on October 25, 2009 at 9:02pm
thats what i thought but ppl in my dept. think other wise which sucks when you are the new kid off the block but you come from NC ff background

its the same state to state i did leave the siren on reguardless and if someones to confront me bout it they will
Comment by Joe Stoltz on October 25, 2009 at 8:14pm
Good point, Greg. A siren wailing at night will probably clear the deer away well ahead of the vehicle.

IF I were required to have my siren on when running with lights, the deer would be one of a few species of life form that would hear it. Very few houses, traffic is nil - it just does not make sense to run the siren. I actually hate listening to it and very rarely use it when responding.

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