IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT USES 5 INCH HOSE CLAMPS? WE HAVE GOTTEN A NEW ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF WHO IS SET ON USING THIS TOOL. I HAVE FOUND INCIDENTS ON THE SECRET LIST OF POTENTIAL INJURIES AND INJURIES THAT HAVE OCCURED DUE TO THIS. SO I AM ASKING IF YOU HAVE TRIED THEM OR USED THEM PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND LET ME KNOW THE GOOD AND BAD. THEY WONT LISTEN TO ME FOR HELL I AM ONLY A CAPTAIN...

DARRAN VAUGHN
MCAS BEAUFORT FIRE RESCUE

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Comment by Darran Vaughn on June 4, 2009 at 9:09pm
I want to thank everyone for there input. We are having to run time test to see how effective the use of these hose clamps will be. As I told the fire chief, hell lets just bring back the horse and wagons....but like I said they dont want to listen to me I am just a captain and an instructor....Hope everyone has a great weekend
Comment by Oldman on June 3, 2009 at 8:50am
Yup, carry them. Good for ISO points, and that's about it (just my opinion). We have trained with them on occasion, to be able to use them IF we had too. I cannot remember, (even in the prehistoric days) of ever needing them. We carry a 2 1/2 clamp as well, never use it either.
Comment by FETC on June 2, 2009 at 12:04pm
Capt.

Its called an incoming pressure relief valve from Jaffrey or Herrington. It is placed on your steamer connection of your pump, you hook up the supply 4 or 5" to it and the hydrant can be charged anytime without the use of a hose clamp. The pump operator can crank the intake handle and WOW water when he or she wants it.

You can even draft with suction off the opposite side without having air leaks or having to manually bust it off the panel everytime you draft. Work slick!

The hose clamp is a thing of the Johnny and Roy 2.5" days ------ Ahhh the past!
Comment by Trainer on June 2, 2009 at 8:10am
We have a gate valve attached permanently to the intake on the pump, would this not be the same?? This is used when we are pond drafting to switch from pond to tank.
Comment by Patrick on June 2, 2009 at 12:23am
We have one on the Engine. The only time it gets taken off is when we teach water supply.
Comment by Lewis R. Austin on June 2, 2009 at 12:04am
Years ago we used the hose clamp when using 2 1/2 inch and 3 inch supply lines. I remember being trained as an Air Force Firefighter back in 1975, we used the hose clamp on our hose lays. For the past 15 to 20 years with 4 inch and 5 inch LDH and using the Storz Coupling, using the hose clamp has become something of the past. I agree, it would take just as long to apply the hose clamp then connecting the LDH with the Storz Coupling directly into the pumper. Yes, ISO still requires Fire Departments to carry hose clamps and yes I have bought hose clamps for the extra few points on the pumper inventory for ISO rating. I do not know many Fire Departments that change out blown hose lines without shutting down the discharge at the pumper. Yes, years ago that was a common practice in training, but not even taught in firefighter courses any more. I remember a few members calling the hose clamp the "boat anchor". So, finding any Fire Department now using the hose clamp as a daily/routine practice may be very rare. Be Safe, Be Careful.......
Comment by robert morrin on June 1, 2009 at 7:48pm
why add the extra step takes more time and more work
Comment by Darran Vaughn on June 1, 2009 at 7:42pm
Hell I have been dealing with 5 inch for over 20 years and we have had it here for that long also and never had these hose clamps before either until now. I will give him your number but i dont think he will call.....
Comment by Ben Waller on June 1, 2009 at 7:34pm
Have your A/C call me if he wants a second opinion. We have 5 inch on every engine and quint, and we don't use hose clamps.
Comment by Darran Vaughn on June 1, 2009 at 7:22pm
Thats what i have said Benny but cant get any of these white shirts to believe me

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