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Permalink Reply by Eddie Rogers on June 7, 2009 at 5:33am

Were really fortunate, our chief, assistant chief, and 3-4 ff's work at a large factory about 2 miles from the station. Myself and 2 other guys work a swing shift so 2 weeks of days and 2 weeks of night for us. If were working nights we all can staff 2 engines within 8 mins of page. Sometimes we get lucky and have guys on vacation too :) mutual aid cannot be overlooked no matter how strong or weak daytime response is. Auto aid is your best friend you can always downgrade if the situation is not as serious as first thought.

Permalink Reply by Becky on June 14, 2009 at 7:23pm

We don't usually have a big issue with this, especially during the summer. In the summer, we have 2 more people that are free 24/7 to staff. And several other members work for the local ambulance company, so they have goofy hours. We do however have 1 paid guy on at all times. So response time is minimal, about 1-2 minutes from the paid part of the department. If there are volunteers staffing, which there usually is, they respond with the the paid guy on the engine. It is usually about a 3-4 minute response from an officer. But we could easily rustle up enough guys in about 10 minutes.
During the day, I believe we have one mutual aid company on almost everything, so that helps too.

Permalink Reply by Kathy Appleby on June 17, 2009 at 12:41am

our daytime staffing sucks. we do have a paid medic 24/7, but its still hard to get the rest of the department out. i work nights so most times its myself (emt) and the driver, or at times its act been just me and the driver on the engine ( and i was even a probie at the time) we almost always tone out for additional help from our department

Permalink Reply by Chief Dino on June 19, 2009 at 6:17pm

We have 3-4 guys that can respond during the day, but the majority of us either can't leave work or work too far away for it to be feasable to respond. Our SOP for a working structure fire is to immediately tone out mutual aid from a neighboring department (closest is 14 miles). We have a real good relationship with the county sheriff dispatch and they don't wait for us to request it they automatically tone out mutual aid. If we get there and don't need them we can turn them around.

Permalink Reply by roncofireman on June 27, 2009 at 10:39am

for our department, we can pull different amounts of people for alarms during the day.
Sometimes we could have a crew of say 14 or 15, and then other times we have a crew of 4 or 5.
At our department we have juniors like me that are pretty much around all the time, so some of the time it is just ther engineer, one other fireman, and 2 or 3 juniors. So what we usually do is call a mutual aid company, as well as tone out for additional man power from our station. Talking to out cheif and or asst. cheif, they are so glad that they have juniors, personally, i have made most of the calls. Our department has had 56 calls this year and i have made 33 of them.

Permalink Reply by Justin Scott on July 13, 2009 at 10:22pm

our daytime staffing really sucks. for ems calls we very seldom get an 1st responder or emt, only is one happens to be off from work that day. as for fire calls we might get a crew of 4 if were lucky (and depending on the type of call) allthought there have been times when its been just me and a probie show up for a possible structure.... lets just say we went pov.

Permalink Reply by Holly on August 3, 2009 at 2:59am

We have to stations in our township plus to more from the area which are toned out automatically on daylight calls. With all four responding we do pretty well. Quite a few work in the area and are able to respond quickly

Permalink Reply by Paul Stoops on August 3, 2009 at 5:00pm

Depends on work schedules. Some of our driver operators are paid firefighters in the Washington DC area or for the Government. It also depends on the time of day.

Permalink Reply by james robinson on August 21, 2009 at 11:31pm

we have that problem also we get maybe 3 or 4 to a call rest are drunks or just dont show up

Permalink Reply by Gregory R Bailey on August 24, 2009 at 1:41pm

Depends on which day of the week. Shift works ect. vary the factor. Thank god for automatic aid. But sometimes they are slim too. Getting our fine dispatch to remeber sometimes is a problem. They are sent on a structure fires. Sometimes on alarms, smoke in the house they do not tone out or MA. It is a ongoing problem. And I know no one has a dispatch problem... yeah right. Be safe come home alive not in a bag.

Permalink Reply by Dean Shrider on August 26, 2009 at 3:20am

During the day time I want to cringe when the pager goes off not knowing if we will have enough for one truck. With our officers being at work and on there way they go directly to the scene with there povs. Thank goodness for automatic mutual aid its always better to have them on the way and not need them as to not having them and need them.

Permalink Reply by trevor leseman on August 30, 2009 at 7:22pm

well here at lyons we have 20 volunteers but we have a core group of 5 that show up to just about every call uhm i beleive that if we were to have a working structure fire durring the day it would take us about 6 minuets to get a crew depends on what day it is though and who is in town personaly if i am in town i go on the call no matter what it is and i dont have a need to leave town very often so i make 90% of our calls but i do think that if there wasnt mutual aid we would not be able to do a working structure very easely especialy if it is fully involved

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