I have wondered what the best blace for a radio. Ive seen them in bunker pants pockets on a radio holder with a strap around the neck like they use in new york or is it best to use a radio pocket on your bunker coat .What about the use of mic clips the best place for them.

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Don Catenacci said:

My problem with the radio strap is my height and the fact that the radio if worn as you describe is smacking me on the thigh as I walk

No adjustable strap?.

We use an adjustable length strap slung over the shoulder and across chest with handie talkie on hip under turnout coat. Remote mic snakes out through bunker coat and clips on to coat high on chest. 

Don, yes you have to definately go with an adjustable strap. I don't know if what you use now, is personal or dept. issue, but if it isn't going against dept. policy; several companies sell some good radio accessories. One that I recommend and that I use, is Sav-A-Jake International, they can be found at:  www.savajake.com/

What I use now?  My radio pocket like I have done the vast majority of the time that I have been issued a radio.

The idea of an adjustable strap seems illogical to me.  As I mentioned I am not tall, 5 foot 6 inches to be exact and I have short legs.  So again, if I adjust the radio as described above, hanging below the coat with the antennae outside of my coat, the bottom of the radio is at my knee.  If I adjust the strap to move the radio up to a comfortable position the antennae is under my coat.  We do not have antennas on the speaker mic.

I am not opposed to people wearing a radio strap if they choose.  I just don't happen to like it. 



Don Catenacci said:

What I use now?  My radio pocket like I have done the vast majority of the time that I have been issued a radio.

The idea of an adjustable strap seems illogical to me.  As I mentioned I am not tall, 5 foot 6 inches to be exact and I have short legs.  So again, if I adjust the radio as described above, hanging below the coat with the antennae outside of my coat, the bottom of the radio is at my knee.  If I adjust the strap to move the radio up to a comfortable position the antennae is under my coat.  We do not have antennas on the speaker mic.

I am not opposed to people wearing a radio strap if they choose.  I just don't happen to like it. 

Do you need antennae out to reach a central communications office?



captnjak said:



Don Catenacci said:

What I use now?  My radio pocket like I have done the vast majority of the time that I have been issued a radio.

The idea of an adjustable strap seems illogical to me.  As I mentioned I am not tall, 5 foot 6 inches to be exact and I have short legs.  So again, if I adjust the radio as described above, hanging below the coat with the antennae outside of my coat, the bottom of the radio is at my knee.  If I adjust the strap to move the radio up to a comfortable position the antennae is under my coat.  We do not have antennas on the speaker mic.

I am not opposed to people wearing a radio strap if they choose.  I just don't happen to like it. 

Do you need antennae out to reach a central communications office?


I was commenting on what Alvin Gonzalez who stated that the antennae needed to be outside the coat.

I am trying to understand why the antenna needs to be outside the coat. 



captnjak said:

I am trying to understand why the antenna needs to be outside the coat. 

I have no idea.  Well other than the antennae is outside the coat when using a radio pocket.

Captnjak, the Fairfax Fire & Rescue Report on Portable Radios In IDLH, states that wearing the radio on a strap ,  under the turnout coat with the radio extending below the bottom of the coat and the antenna exposed has less signal loss. When the radio is placed in the coat radio pocket, the study found a reduction of 30 decibels when a firefighter is crawling. The reason for the signal loss being that the body mass is greater and shields the radio antenna , when the radio is worn in the pocket.

http://www.osfc.pa.gov/Documents/Portable%20Radio%20Placement%20IDL...

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-oEs8axts

Radio Strap Use, video posted by the Denver FD on YouTube.



Alvin Gonzalez said:

Captnjak, the Fairfax Fire & Rescue Report on Portable Radios In IDLH, states that wearing the radio on a strap ,  under the turnout coat with the radio extending below the bottom of the coat and the antenna exposed has less signal loss. When the radio is placed in the coat radio pocket, the study found a reduction of 30 decibels when a firefighter is crawling. The reason for the signal loss being that the body mass is greater and shields the radio antenna , when the radio is worn in the pocket.

http://www.osfc.pa.gov/Documents/Portable%20Radio%20Placement%20IDL...

Having the radio extend beneath the coat puts it awful low on the body. Seems it would be flopping around down there. I believe we should eliminate as many entanglement possibilities as we can. We wear the radio 100% inside the coat antennae included. We do have a remote mic worn outside. Fireground communications are fine.



captnjak said:



Alvin Gonzalez said:

Captnjak, the Fairfax Fire & Rescue Report on Portable Radios In IDLH, states that wearing the radio on a strap ,  under the turnout coat with the radio extending below the bottom of the coat and the antenna exposed has less signal loss. When the radio is placed in the coat radio pocket, the study found a reduction of 30 decibels when a firefighter is crawling. The reason for the signal loss being that the body mass is greater and shields the radio antenna , when the radio is worn in the pocket.

http://www.osfc.pa.gov/Documents/Portable%20Radio%20Placement%20IDL...

Having the radio extend beneath the coat puts it awful low on the body. Seems it would be flopping around down there. I believe we should eliminate as many entanglement possibilities as we can. We wear the radio 100% inside the coat antennae included. We do have a remote mic worn outside. Fireground communications are fine.


This is my exact point. Wearing it as described by Alvin Gonzalez puts the bottom of the radio at my knee in an incredibly awkward position.

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