Its been along time since I masked up. I keep seeing comments about yard breathing. I remember turning on the bottles in the engine, grabbing a line and going in. (yes we did check doors and windows and signs for backdrafts)


Is the new school to turn on the air at the door? And if you have a 30 min bottle, how long to you plan on being inside?

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Just had a thought cross my mind.

This could be a great way to help everyone wear seatbelts also.

Mount the airpacks next to our gear lockers right in the station. We could don the packs right after getting geared up, masks and everything. Just not start breathing until we pull on scene and jump out.

What does everyone else think?
Interesting thought, however I'm not to keen on it. For a very quick response down the road a mile or so..I could see this. I think maybe too many 'cons' on this one. It's hard enough with evryone getting geared up, to then climb on the truck..already packed up. I think I see injuries and damaged equipment in the future. I will say least we are tossing around ideas, that's how things get better. Keep up the 'thinking process'. Be safe!!
Mark, Strange that you would say that. When I was hired we used to (1975) have an SCBA mounted on the wall of the station right by the back of the engine. The nozzleman would put it on before we left (not the facepiece), coat, day boots and SCBA. We rode the tailboard then and it worked out great. But now it is 2011 and you must have a seatbelt on (a good thing).
I might add that my department took the SCBA's out of the seats and put them back in the side compartment because guys were not wearing their seatbelts and were dressing enroute. We wanted them to stop that so we took the SCBA's out. The decision was made after much testing and we found there was anly a 10 second difference between having the SCBA in the seat or in the side compartment.
We pack up in the rig, grab the line, make our way to the door (or where ever else we are making entry), mask up and tell the operator we are ready for water. The timing works and if we come across a surprise and take in a mouthful. I would hate to walk into a booby trap and end up falling through the floor into a basement fire with no mask. We've come across these in the past. Grow ops fast building fires can cause holes in the floor in minutes. It's not a risk we are willing to take. There's nothing cool about a preventable death.
You make a good point. Tail board riding..I agree with you. You hit it on the head about seatbelts. Most of the veterans understand the need for this safety feature. It's those 'probees' and 'young guns' that we have the most trouble with. I welcome your thoughts on this talk...10 second plus or minus is not that major. We do have some SCBA's in side compartments also. Thank you so much for your thoughts and insight..and I realy mean that!!
I agree with that 'preventable death' concept. I think we can agree that it's a personal approach to this. Of course unless the department has standing sop's or other directives. Thank you for your thougths. Be safe.

One of the places I volunteered back in the day did the same thing with wall-mounted SCBA, tailboards, and day boots.

We still have seat-mounted SCBAs, but the primary reason we kept them there was to use the compartment space for more tools.
That from the guy who tried to label a single-word reply as "immature". Makes you go "hmmmmm".

As for turning your head in a mask - you still have limited peripheral vision - just in different directions.
Yea, things change, usually for the better.
I make the connection just before I enter the structure unless the circumstances dictate that I be on air beforehand. I want every second of air that I can get before I have to come outside to swap out.

I had a call (well, calls) a number of years ago during a thunderstorm where we were enroute to a structure fire during a severe thunderstorm with reported flames showing. First in arrived, confirmed fire showing so we figured we were going to be working. One of my backseaters went on air just before we arrived at the call. We get there....first in engine crew made one hell of a knock, assisted by an actual firewall in the attic of the residence (turns out the home used to belong to a Fire Marshall in a nearby city and he insisted on rated firewalls in the attic) so we arrived to a fire that was out and after about 5 minutes on scene got redirected to another nearby structure fire. We arrived first in on that one with heavy smoke showing so we made entry. Literally 5' in the door the one backseater's bells went off, cutting my interior crew from 3 to 2. We took a beating until the 2nd due engine arrived. From that point on I have always stressed to my folks that we don't go on air until we have to.
Lots of replies for one simple rule. Don't breath smoke! If you are where the smoke is breath your air.
The good ole days of riding tailboard. At least the sunny and dry days were good. Rain and snow sucked.

Never had the wall-mounted SCBA's though. Other than spares anyways.

If I'm last in the truck, I just throw my belt on and grab my pack when dismounting. Anyone else who threw their's on before hand never seem to be waiting for me when it's time to go.

Probably makes for far more comfortable seats as well. Our last engine that we got, the seats are terribly uncomfortable.

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