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Tools Taken In During Search?
what kind of tools do you take in on searches need some different views here
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Permalink Reply by capcityff on
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I wouldn't have a hook with, but two bars isn't so bad. You can use the bar as a striking tool as well. Most likely one would carry a bar and flat head while the other might carry a bar alone.
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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I prefer a striking tool with more mass, especially at the tool's head. A flathead axe is OK, a sledge or the striking face of a splitting maul is better.
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Permalink Reply by NOVAFireman on
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One trick you can do should you ever need a little more leverage when forcing a door, is to take the fork ends of both bars and drive them together making a 60" bar.
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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on
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you guys sound llike a pretty well organized Department. What we do is very similar to you guys' and it has proven to be very effective for us. Unfortunately, manpower is the greatest determining factor.
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No misunderstanding. Yes, we do have 2 halligans when we search. For us, the halligan has proven to be the most versatile hand tool that we carry and it fits the bill for just about any job assignment on our Truck. In almost every one of our job assignments, you can find a halligan in use.
Our Interior team not only searches for life, but also forces entry and opens up for the Eng Co to wash down any possible hidden fires behind walls, floorboards, door moldings, etc, along with venting windows as needed.
Many people ask, "Why take 2 halligans if you are working together?" Our answer is, "Just in case we get separated, need to bail out, or need to perform similar tasks simultaneously.
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Very well put. Even though we enter the structure together, we usually are not operating side by side unless I have a newer member with me. In that case, I keep him/her right next to me because I get scared in the dark. Hahaha!
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One can easily use a halligan as striking tool. The blows aren't as efficient as some other tools but just as effective.
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We carry hooks and our guys prefer the roof hooks over pike poles any day of the week. And again, carrying a hook and actually knowing how to use it are 2 entirely different things. We use hooks to open up everything, search rooms, probe under beds, force entry, pry off moldings and base boards, and we also set them on fire and juggle them as our closing act. Hahaha!
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I have seen that done on videos but never did it myself. Have you done it in real scenarios?
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We carry personal escape ropes, but as far as search ropes, we only use them for large area searches.
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Only in training with acquired structures, but never at a real incident. It's one of those things to keep in "the toolbox" for later use.
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Thanks for the explanation. Our truck also does checks for extension and assist the engines with overhaul, but there's generally no hurry for those. If we need additional tools that are not needed during the search, we either go back to the truck and get them or have them brought to the access point,
Due to the limited number of hands for a two-persone search team, we usually take a can instead of a duplicate tool - since it adds a different capability (rather than a redundent one) to the search team.
If we need a striking tool, we just use the axe that's mated to the primary irons set.
We do most of our hidden fire hunts with a TIC. I was the Group Supervisor for the group that included our truckies while they caught hidden fire and overhauled a few nights ago on this incident.
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