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SCBA on the Roof?
Below are a series of photos courtesy "FirehouseGuy" from theWatchDesk.com from a daytime house fire last week in Maryland.
These photos are circulating around the Web on sites such as Firefighter Close Calls on the aspect of firefighter safety ... with the site noting "No one hurt but good pictures from the scene drawing "THINK" attention to PPE, SCBA and roof operations. While we love roof operations when needed, we are don't love un-needed exposure to the smoke -- today's smoke is some nasty crap.....we need to THINK. 1000 active Firefighters die each year to cancer."
What are your thoughts and your department's SOPs for firefighters operating on the roof of structure firefighters?
These photos are circulating around the Web on sites such as Firefighter Close Calls on the aspect of firefighter safety ... with the site noting "No one hurt but good pictures from the scene drawing "THINK" attention to PPE, SCBA and roof operations. While we love roof operations when needed, we are don't love un-needed exposure to the smoke -- today's smoke is some nasty crap.....we need to THINK. 1000 active Firefighters die each year to cancer."
What are your thoughts and your department's SOPs for firefighters operating on the roof of structure firefighters?
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Permalink Reply by Chris Rohwer on
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Completley 100% agree with that. No need for roof operations to vent, if it vented itself. And everyones safety is their own.
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Permalink Reply by morris washburn on
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That is true Paul. Nothing was right .this looks like a Volunteer Dept . Hardly anyone there . The guy holding the hose looks like a pump operator / civilian !! this also looks like my Dept.
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Permalink Reply by LT. Darrell Wright on
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All I'm going to say is " No need to be there".
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Permalink Reply by alan on
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in today's society, you never know. i have seen full time paid companies who act 100 times worse that any volley company that i have ever seen
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Permalink Reply by Fireyladd - Retired Chief Sharp on
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The guy wouldn't e up there without full PPE, charged hose line and SCBA.
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Permalink Reply by Spanner 122 on
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"what do they expect to gain from their actions?" Number 1 question, ALWAYS!
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Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on
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Nothing right I have seen in any of the photo's.
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Permalink Reply by bill cline on
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You would think that any firefighter, probie or not would know to wear a SCBA on the roof. Especially on a house fire that is producing this much smoke...
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Everyone keeps asking where the IC is, well if you look in the second to bottom photo you can see someone with a white helmet. I know I shouldn't assume, but I would think that it is an AC or Chief. Granted the IC is ultimatley responsible for everyones safety on that scene, but like I said before, it is also your own. And coming from a small rural volunteer dept. I have been on at least one scene where the first due engine responded with the Chief and one firefighter. I responded the tanker and we had 3 mutual depts. enroute with at least an engine and tanker. When I arrived on scene I had to set up water supply and be IC as well as pump operator, because the 2 people on the engine made an interior attack. It wasn't until after intial knockdown that my Chief came out and then assumed command.
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Most of you are missing the point here. Yes what he is doing with the lack of scba is wrong.
WHY ARE THEY ON THE ROOF TO BEGIN WITH? The roof is unsafe. The whole operation is unsafe.
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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on
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Nothing was right .this looks like a Volunteer Dept .
WTF?
As alan has also said, I've also seen career stations being lax in their PPE, techniques, etc
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Permalink Reply by whitehat on
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There is more wrong in these photos besides the SCBA. Where is the roof ladder? Where is a second firefighter in case he falls? Where is the charged hoseline? They also have the wrong ladder for the job and that's why the angle is way off. These photos are a good example of what NOT to do during ventilation and ladder placement, I will use these in my Firefighter essentials class on Monday. This department got lucky that everyone went home that day. Always work in pairs, if there are not enough on scene to ventilate, the next in engines can do it.
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