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Im on a comittee in our department that is looking to purchase a new rescue truck. A little background on my dept. we run roughly 90-100 calls a year the majority are EMS, we have 24 members on our roster now and we are looking to replace our light rescue truck, right now we have a 1987 crew cab chevy truck that holds 3 SCBA, 3 Cascade bottles, our jaws and a genarator, also our medical bags and splints. Im looking for any input on what your dept. use for a light rescue, so i can bring some good ideas back to the comittee, this truck will be the most used in our dept. going on MVA's, structurs, EMS, Haz-mat, and more. thanks Robert Amsterdam Vol. Fire MT
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Permalink Reply by Robert Flikkema on
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also if we can raise our ISO ratings with any equip. on this truck???
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Permalink Reply by Avery Dale on
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We run a 2006 GMC 4500 mini-pumper built by KME. Crew cab, 4x4, 300 gallon tank, 500 gpm pump, x2 preconnects, top mount booster line, hose bed, top compartments, roll up doors, winch. We run this mainly as our rescue but the pumper has come in handy on several brush and vehicle fires that it arrived on before the engine. Because it had the pump it did help somewhat on our ISO but not much. Check out my profile page for pictures, it is labeled Rescue 16.
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Permalink Reply by Trainer on
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What you are trying to do, can’t be done in a mini, you need to jump to a medium rescue/pumper. We just ordered what you described, but keep in mind we also roll a heavy rescue on every call, cribbing alone would fill half of a pickup. If you are interested I’ll come back with a description, but if you’re set on a pickup, there’s no need. As for ISO, again what you described won’t get you squat, with the exception of a few hand tools and a salvage cover or 20, it has to pump at least 500gpm and have 1200ft of hose to be considered a pumper. I’m not a fan of running a PU to MVA’s , some day it will come back to haunt you, that 200-400gal of water just won’t be enough, at least without foam, you’ll run across magnesium or your toned to a car and it’s a semi or bus, again you screwed. I know money is always an issue, but really look at what you want and tell me you can stuff it all in a pickup, then look at what you need.
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Permalink Reply by Chuck Beecher on
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We are also building a new truck the way we are doing it is figuring out what we want to carry see how big of a truck we need to carry the equipment and we are going to build it that way. Also dont buy a utility body if you want it to last over 10 yrs im not sure if you have to deal with salt & snow. we have to replace the body on our med. duty rescue because of this. hope this helps Chuck
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ya if you could give me a description that would be great maybe even a pic. if u got one. We always run our engine out first on MVA calls its a 98' peirce with 1,000 gal. so we dont need any water.
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Sorry, no pics yet, got a blueprint but its to big. Navistar 7400 2 man cab 4x4, 1000gpm top mount pump and roll, 700gal, 20gal foam, 2 mattydale pre cons, 1 rear 2 1/2 pre con, front mount remote controlled turret, 3 side compartments, 1 rear with rear slide out and its all the way across the back of the truck. Top dunnage box, 3 section hose bed, I believe 42cuft of storage and room for 1500gal fold-a-tank. Truck and rear is all aluminum, plastic tank, with stainless steel plumbing and LED’s galore. Use will be field fires, MVA’s and car fires and will be water supply for structure fires, priced just under 300 grand.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Montpetit on
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We just purchased a new Ford Crew cab 550 SuperDuty....it rides great, turns well, and the 550 will handle your cascade with its heavy duty suspension...suggestion...we had them put interchangable mounts front and back for the winch...comes in handy.....as far as upping your iso rating ...water supply seems to be the biggie here....we upped ours last year and the fact that we roll with 11,000 gallons put us over the top.....our response times are pretty good as well......and our training is right at the top as well.....everyone is current with training, fit testing and all OSHA mandates......Paul
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Hi Robert, I was our truck committee what we did since we are from Pennsylvania we had the Pierce Rep come first they basically was ripping us off and not offering much of anything as far as the truck goes and than we brought in the Seagrave Rep who was suppose to sent us specs for a Engine/HeavyRescue and a 100 ft aerial or quint or tower but they blew that out of the water because the Seagrave Rep never came back untill we had bought our KME Combo and to boot since it was a Pennsylvania Company we got a nice size discount for dealing with a State Company. When the KME Rep came down he offered us a very nice configuration of specs with even a bigger cab and larger engine so we did and we are set up that the hydraulics,lighting, and all the lights and seven hurst tools can work all at once by just hitting two switches in the cab so upon arriving on the scene the truck is all setup and running the men just open up the sliding doors and pull out the tools and do your job. I am sure they can make it smaller if so be it but out of all three Reps I must say KME bend over backwards to put a new Hvy Rescue Combo in the station where the other two didn't do nothing for us. We love it and haven't had a bit of trouble with it. Hughie The 57 House Irwin,PA
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Robert remember one thing when you talk to these Reps because they will tell you the sky is pink but most of all we are Volunteer and We have to get the most for Our money when purchasing the truck and never hesitate to twist some arms and play tough you may end up getting alot more than what you expected for your investment, and please all the taxpayers..Hughie The 57 House GO PENS!!!!
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I love KME Apparatus!!! We had one at my old hometown dept. and we loved it!!! It was a Falcon Terminator engine on an International chasis. And the 8 man cab was just awsome!! We called it the bus. It never let us down and that was back in 93.
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Never never ever let a rep tell you what you need or show you a spec and say this will work for you, did I say never. If he shows up with more than a couple of pics and a note pad, kick him out. You know, or should know long before you talk to a rep what you want, he should offer advice, a tweak here or their, give you references to go look at, take notes, you should hear I’m not sure about that, I’ll check; if he says yes or we can do that to everything, don’t ask him back. Remember this is your money, your truck, if they can’t build it the way you want it, find someone who will. Too many MFG’s today have 1 or 2 designs and modify it to meet your needs; this is a cost savings to them, not to you.
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