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Permalink Reply by John Crabbe on March 18, 2010 at 11:25am

Ok. House appears to be a single story to story and half, wood frame construction. I'm guessing the view we have here is the "D" side of the stucture, fire showing from "D" side window and self venting through the roof.

Standard response for us, 3 pumps with staffing of 4
One truck, staffing of 3
One amb, staffing of 2 (min)
Bat Chief, one

First in pump will be fire attack, officer does a 360, crew pulls an 1 3/4 attck line.
Second in pump, catches a hydrant, crew becomes back up
Third in pump is RIT
Truck and ambo will do search and vent.

Unknown victims, we will ask if anyone knows if there are people still inside and where they may be, or look for clues, like car in garage, etc. First in pump will be fire attack, go in through the front door and hit the fire. Second in pump is the backup. Ambulance crew will do a primary search. Truck crew will control utilities, place ground ladders.

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Permalink Reply by Just Plain Craig Moyer on March 21, 2010 at 11:22am

Standard intial response is station along with 2 engines and rescue. Upgrade after recieveing several calls would be addtional engine, rescue and add ladder with EMS and one RIT. In our area looking at first response manpower 15-20 FF's 3-4 FF per unit (volunteer) upgrade brings an additional 9-12FF...hopefully.

First engine lay in since you should be able to see smoke or be notified that its a working alarm, take line into residence, IC walk around, 2nd engine crew deploy 2nd line, rescue as S&R. All units except 1st engine stage away from scene to allow ladder placement.

Make sure at least one engine comes from 2nd direction instead of getting that drive thru effect with everyone coming from the same direction and parking one behind the other

Fire appears during the day so high probability of residents not being home. Ladder trench cut roof since its already in the attic. The rear of the structure looks like its a possible add on so the attic area may not connect.

3rd line to the rear for added protection of the first two hose lines.

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Permalink Reply by Capt./Chaplain Mike Petrosky on March 22, 2010 at 3:29pm

We would get the following response:

5 Engines-usually 3-4 FF's each, most of our Eng. hold 6
1 Automatic Mutual Aid Engine - 4 FF's, per county AMA SOG's
2 Rescues-varies 2-4 FF's
3 Brush Trucks-2 FF's each
1 Tanker-if in rural area, non-hydranted area
1-Chief
2-DC's

First Officer 360 with initial BIR and incoming assignments. 2 story single family wood frame const., fire from 2nd story windows on "D" side. 2nd Officers takes IC. First due to stretch through the front door. 2nd due water supply, back up, 1st Rescue-search and vent, 3rd Engine RIT, 2nd Rescue-ladders to each side of structure, 4 th Engine set up staging and accountability and will need one crew to basement to check for extension/origin ( this style house, depending on age could very well be balloon constr. ). All other incoming units are assigned as needed. . ."as the first 5 minutes goes, so goes the fire".

Just a note: could be a chimney fire? Notice the difference in coloring next to chimney on the left side. Could be extension also. Roof Ops too-lots of different pitches, angles to this structure, add ons, many possible voids!

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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on March 25, 2010 at 2:06pm

Initial response:
1 Eng Co
1 Truck Co
1 Ambo

"Disptach...Truck 3 is on scene at 12345 Main Street....We have a 1.5 story wood frame single residential with fire showing from the "D" side 2nd floor and through the roof....Please give us a 2nd residential alarm for this zone, notify the Chiefs, and page out a station fill....Truck 3 will have command from the interior with all Companies going to the Fireground channel."

2nd Residential alarm
2 Chiefs
2 Eng Co's
1 Truck Co

1st due Truck
position the turntable at the far corner of the structure to ensure a 3 sided view for the officer and to increase the "scrub" area
split into 2 teams - Officer and Officer's jump seat force entry, the Officer will complete a 360 if possible, search for life and fire, open up for the Eng Co. The Officer is command until the Chief arrives and then the Officer becomes interior command. Driver and driver's side jump seat put the stick to the roof, ventilation, OVM, throw ground ladders for egress, utilities, and then join the rest of the Co interior for search and overhaul.

1st due Eng Co
split into 2 teams - Officer and Officer jump seat stretch an 1.75" attack line to the seat of the fire as directed by the Truck Officer/Interior and attack the fire. Driver/operator and Driver's side jump seat ensure that the appropriate attack line is clear of the apparatus, charge the line from the booster tank, catch a hydrant, and then the Driver's side jump seat clears the kinks and the attack line from any obstructions(doorways, corners, stairs, etc...) Driver/Operator will then stage a fan and/or lights

1st due Ambo
2 members - primary search and then supplement the interior crews

1st due Chief
Receives a report from the Truck Officer and assumes command

2nd due Chief
Completes another 360 and assumes the role of Safety Officer

2nd due Eng Co
Ensures the 1st due Eng Co has a secured water supply and stretches a 2nd line of equal size or greater for back up

3rd due Eng Co
Catches a 2nd hydrant and protects exposures

2nd due Truck
Assumes RIT as well as another 360 and another ground ladder to the roof for egress

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Permalink Reply by Jack/dt on June 9, 2010 at 5:03pm

My 2 cents:
Building construction is dimensional, solid lumber (rear addition(s) may be newer and different but not presently involved), original const. could be early 40's to late 60's, rear additions more recent.
Most likely not balloon frame.
Not a chimney fire, trees are fully leafed, it's not heating season.
I would bet there's a full shed dormer on the C side second flr.
There's a pair of double hung windows on the D side, most likely a bedroom.
Fire appears limited to second floor.
Second floor appears to have flashed over.
With flames in the D side room and extension through the roof, little chance of survival up there.
Fire has extended through the roof so no reason to be on it. No need to cut anything as there's already a hole there.
Stair most likely center staircase but could be on the B wall, either case entry is from the A side main entrance and up the stairs.
We also use 2" as attack line so plenty of water to knock it down.

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Permalink Reply by Jason Hoevelmann on June 9, 2010 at 5:30pm

I'm really intrigued by this 2" hose. I know it's been around for a while but I have had no exposure to it. For those that have it, how is it? By the way, I had a guy email from this site that is learning a great deal from all of your posts and comments, so keep up the good work and thanks for commenting. I have to admit, I learn something every time we do one these and find something else to consider from every comment. Thanks again, Jason.

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