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Cross lay load
Hey all i am wondering what type of hose load you all use and what have you found to work best for a 1 3/4 Preconnected Cross lay.. Thanks
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Permalink Reply by Brian Dumser on
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"Flat loaded for our speedlays... 2 and a Loop method for rapid deployment" - Tons o' Fun
We do it the same way here. Our vehicles have 2 cross lays. The front is 150' of 1 3/4", and the rear is 200' of 1 3/4".
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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Front Bumper line - 100 foot preconnect ed 1.75 inch in a two-layer horseshoe load with an additional 100 feet dead-loaded underneath.
Two crosslays, each with 200 feet of 1.75 inch in triple-layer loads. One is set to primarily pull the the left and one to the right, but either can be pulled from secondary side.
Two rear-deployed 2.5 inch lines, each with 200 feet of hose. Additional 2.5 is in an accordion dead load in an adjacent bed.
Supply line is 1050 of 5 inch.
We also carry a high-rise/marina pack in a compartment. One bundle is 100 feet of 1.75 inch and a fog tip in a Milwaukee strap and the other is 50 feet of 2.5 inch and a gated wye in a second Milwaukee strap. The bundles hang from pipe extensions inside the compartments so that they can be easily shoulder-loaded from street level.
We also have preconnected deck pipes on the deck over our midship pump panels.
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Permalink Reply by Firefighter 1781 on
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Triple lay No question about it.
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Permalink Reply by Jenny Holderby on
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Well maybe somebody will "look it up" but in my world it is a flat lay with 3 layers of hose with loops for grabbing the hose. If not, I would appreciate the correct answer.
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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on
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All of our crosslays and our preconnects in the rear are flat loaded for consistency and ease of reloading. This way it is always repacked the same way and everyone stretches the same way. I know that there are loads that deploy faster, but we haven't had any problems and for us, simple is always better.
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Permalink Reply by Trainer on
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Well I’m still not sure what a triple lay is, but after some though, there are only 3 types of hose lays, flat, according, and horseshoe. Everything is a related to those 3 with slight variations. Most of the “special” names were probably coined by Joe FF reloading the truck after a fire, like you know if we put a loop in this so we can grab all of this faster, we be just like the “minute men”…don’t forget the “Dutchman”. Now I may be wrong, been known to happen, and I’m sure someone will point it out.
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Permalink Reply by morris washburn on
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wow so many ways to lay ! But i knew that anyway. patrick, good question.We dont use the tripple lay just load flat no loops grab nozzel and go. I tryed to have loops but the astt. chief had a fit ,so he unloaded and reloaded it as I watched him . LOl We have 2 pumpers set up the same 150 ' 1 3/4"front lay ,100' 1 3/4 " back lay . driverside 500' of 1 3/4 "rearlay hooked up on a 2.5 "wye . We are a rural fire fighting dept. so by the time we usually get there its to late .1 pumper is setup w/ horseshoe supply 3"line , City pumper is flatlay 3" supply.
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The loop-through-the-nozzle-bail trick will not work with 2.5-inch hose.
The bails are not wide enough to slide the 2.5 hose through them.
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Trainer,
The Triple-Layer load is a standard attack line configuration as listed by the IFSTA Essentials of Firefighting manual in Editions 4 and 5. So is the Minuteman load.
Ben
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Permalink Reply by rfdjumper on
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The City of Reading uses the "Modified Minuteman". It's real easy for our two man crews to deploy and pack quickly.
On a personal note, I think the triple pack sucks balls.
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Permalink Reply by Jeff Betz on
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Although it **** ***** to some folks, the triple layer load works best on the low pre-connects (waist height or so) for us. A big advantage is that you never have to walk more than 50 feet from the engine and it's all out, and easy to use. Our higher loads (200' inch 3/4 and 2 1/2) are traditional flat loads.
As for the minuteman load, it **** ****** just like rfdjumper so eloquently put it.
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Permalink Reply by Jay on
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Our crosslays are all minuteman loads. 150' each. We use house bundles for extra hose.
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