Apparatus placement is important.

Apparatus placement is important.

This is a hard pushing fire and getting water on it fast is important.

But, be careful of where and how you place your apparatus.

The operator is very likely having a difficult time at the pump panel even if he is in a mask and tank.

 

In addition, if that fire would flash, that truck is now an exposure.  If your department is like mine, it can’t afford to have a truck out of service for long waiting for a replacement.  Not to mention the insurance probably wont buy a new one at what they cost these days.

 

Just take some time to think about where you are placing your apparatus.  If your apparatus becomes disabled because of poor placement while you are inside, things could get bad real quick.

 

Be aware and stay safe.

 

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In addition, if that fire would flash, that truck is now an exposure.

Hear, hear! I recall one incident, a working structure at a SFD, our Ladder/Quint was first on scene. It was placed at the A/B corner at a shallow angle(normally this is a good working position for a Ladder), at what seemed like a safe distance to the residence, and the crew and truck went to work. Very, very shortly after arrival virtually the entire residence flashed, it was balloon framed. The entire home lit up like a Christmas tree. We broke down as much as we could, as quickly as we could, and had to back the truck up about another 100ft.
What ever happened to one and a half times the height? Or is that old school?
hopefully they learned their lesson.

It is always easy to armchair quarterback and I know that over the years we have placed our trucks in harms way, but with every call and every incident we try to learn a thing or two and apparatus placement is just as important as any other skill we use.
Our biggest problem is finding a suitable place for the engine and drop tank and tanker access all on the same piece of real estate.
I thought this might be appropriate for this topic.



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with us being a small town and small back roads with no town water we have the same problem but one good thing is we have the option to draft off the front of our engine. have a line from one tank to another so we can dump into one tank and pump water from tank to tank until it goes through the truck. So in theory we have endless options. Not sure if you have the same options. Fortunetly we have done alot of shuttle training with neighboring towns because they also have they same issues. truck placement has alot to do with how well the shuttle operates doesn't it?
One and a half times the height, right? Got it. Dang. They were lucky nobody was killed. That happened kinda quick.
check out the ladders who is going to be the lucky one to go up those?
Not old school I've been a driver for about 4 years now and when I was in training that was drilled into my head. I was on a working fire in a neighboring town when we arrived on scene our first assignment was to help dissconnect lines from the first in quint so it could be moved away from the building. It was probally about 10 feet from the building smoke and heat just pouring out the back. After it was moved we went into suround and drown ops and they ended up burning the tip of the ladder
We were on a mutual aid call to another department with a working warehouse fire. The driver of their engine placed it too close to the structure. One of our members had to literally cut the hose lines with a knife, for a quick escape when the building collapsed.

Tunnel vision, fire moth syndrome, or what ever the case may be, placement is critical!

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