Gentlemen,

I have been tasked by the IAFF Local F25 President Jim Gibaud to research the "Workgroup" schedule. I have gotten some information on it and slightly remember how it worked from some of the guys at NWSY in Yorktown that I have known for years. I am just looking for any input anyone can give, opinions from experiance and if anyone has a copy of that type of schedule that would be great. The two schedules that will be in the running along side of the work group schedule are the 24 on 24 off with a 3 day every two weeks and a 5 day every quarter, and the 48 on 72 off for 3 cycles 48 on 48 off for 1 cycle. Again any opinions or experiance will be greatly appreciated. If you can and feel comfortable please include your name, rank, and email address in the reply.

John E. Musey IV FFEMT
Navy Region Mid-Atlantic Fire & Emergency Services
District 3 Virgina Beach
Station 8 Dam Neck Annex A-Shift
john.e.musey@navy.mil

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My department is looking to go to the 48/72 schedule. I am looking for any "stats" as to how the schedule decreased sick leave and over time. Thanks
dkeith75@hotmail.com
Hey John,
At SRS we are working a 24 on 72 off schedule which everybody loves. you basicly work Mon/Fri, Tues/Sat, Wed/Sun, and then 10 hr wed for training and then thurs. So pay period runs 48,48,48,34 hr work weeks.
John i'm with the fort rucker fire dept in alabama. We are currently looking at 48/72 vs. 48/48. We work 24/24 now, anything u have that i could get to show pros and cons.Please send!!
I work for the navy here in Fort Worth, TX. We are working a schedule like this 2 on, 3 off, 2 on, 3 off, 2 on, 2 off. We have divided shift personel into 7 groups, 1,2,3,...... Looks like this:
First week of pay period Second week pay period
Sun day 1 135.............. Sun day 8 246
Mon day 2 136 ..............Mon day 9 257
Tue Day3 246 ...............Tue day 10 357
Wen day 4 247 .............Wed day 11 136
Thu day 5 357 ...............Thur day 12 146
Fri day 6 135 .................Fri day 13 247
Sat day 7 146 ................Sat day 14 257
If for some reason it looks hard but we have yearly calenders to keep track.
Hope this helps.
John,

Have you guys gone to the 48/72 yet? This topic was just brought up for discussion here at Parris Island. Any information you can provide me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Missy
taz_thorpe@yahoo.com
Hey Brother guess what !

We Californias Local F-33
yep ! F33 will be changing
to the work schedule of 48 on and 72 off come 2009 .
this took about ten years but our firefighters voted for it
its pays to be in the Union.
the rest of the guys and gals will just have to live with it.
we will go to this come 2009 there is one catch its a one year Trial 1st
then we get feed back from everyone then the chief heres us then decides.
http://www.localf33.org/
anyway you take care
stay safe
God Bless ya Anthony
Rock Island Arsenal Local F-292 Rock Island IL, is going to the 48/72 schedule starting Jan. 2009. This process has only taken about 4-6 months. Will be a 1 year trial with option to revert back to our 24/24 schedule or stay with it.
Does anyone that currently use this schedule get yearly schedule cards made? if so, where?

Thanks
Darin
I currently work at a department that does 24 on, 24 off with a 3 day every two weeks. I don't really like the schedule but I don't really have a choice because it is an Air Force Fire Department and I am active duty. I think that we should be on a 24 on 48 off schedule because of that fact that we don't get any holidays off, while the rest of the base takes the holiday plus one or two more days before and/or after that holiday. I don't like the idea of a 48 on 72 off because I think I would get tired of some of the guys at my station who do nothing but complain.
I am on the job at Parris Island and we are attempting to switch to the 48/72 schedule now. It has been before the union and approved and is in negation as of now. If you send me a PM I will put you in touch with our union reps to discuss it all. They have a killer PowerPoint on it that goes into detail on manpower, training, leave everything a manager will need to know in order to make it happen.
Hey John,

Could you email me your powerpoints?

christopher.hubmer@eu.navy.mil
could you send me the power point on the 48, 48 our department is looking at it also. james.d.bright@conus.army.mil thanks
Have worked 48/72, 48/72, 48/48 since 2006. I'd NEVER go back to a department working 24/24. I've been at two departments during the transition to the "alternative" schedule.....yes, there was some dissent during the discussion phase. But a year into the new schedule that dissent had virtually disappeared.

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