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What is your prefered nozzle--smooth bore or fog
My opinion is that both have their place ,but, i prefer tha smooth bore
I have used them both and it just seems to me that the sb nozzle is easier to manuver in an interior attack because of the slight pressure difference.
Although, on the first in line your adrinline takes care of manuverability for you, but, as the call goes on I tend to tire less while using the sb.
I have used them both and it just seems to me that the sb nozzle is easier to manuver in an interior attack because of the slight pressure difference.
Although, on the first in line your adrinline takes care of manuverability for you, but, as the call goes on I tend to tire less while using the sb.
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Permalink Reply by Berg Schulenberg on
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We run 3 1-3/4 cross lays on all 3 of our engines. Each one carries two with Task Force Tip nozzles and the other is a smooth bore. We let the initial sizeup determine whether we go with the Task Force or the smooth bore. Although no an SOG, alll IC's will call for the smooth bore if the strucrure is heavily involved. For your garden variety one room burnout we'll go with the Task Force tip.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Stoltz on
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We have been using smoothbores on our attack lines for the past few years and have made a couple of observations. First, a lot of pump operators run the pump pressure at levels more suited to TFTs so the SB nozzle is a bear to hang on to alone. And, if you try to run the pump pressure lower to provide approximately the right NP the hose kinks and limits the flow.
We use a type of nozzle called the Vindicator and it really puts out a lot of water, very similar to a SB. It has a method of entraining air into the fire stream which makes it a very good foam nozzle as well.
Anyone else use Vindicators?
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Permalink Reply by John on
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We use and I like the pistol grip adjustible gallonage fog nozzles, but a valuable lesson. When using standpipe systems we use a smooth bore tip. This is due to the amount of rust and trash in these systems will cause your standard fog nozzle to stop up when you need it the most.
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Permalink Reply by Pat Remo on
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My dept has used fog for a long while now and are recently going back to smooth bore attack lines. We've found that the fog just dosen't have the reach or power. When it's hot and you need the reach a smooth bore is there, plus u don't upset the thermal balance as much, creating less steam. The only use for fog in interior attack is vent/overhaul.
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Permalink Reply by Rick Kenney on
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We use adjustable gpm combination nozzles on our pre-connects set at 150 straight stream. We have smooth bores for our master streams and we've used them on handlines for exterior attacks. As far as going in I'll take the combo nozzle for its versitility.
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Permalink Reply by joe on
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at my station we use several differnt nozzles we use tft automatic combition nozzles. we also use 2 inch lines and both smooth bore nozzles on it and a special type nozzle called a "vinactor" made by a company called first strike. it gives you 240 gm at 65 psi nozzle pressure.we have the one for heavy attack. works well and needs training to be used not like any nozzle i used but very good knock down.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Tanner on
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We have both. The smooth bore works good for initial knock down and less thermal inbalance but the fog seams to work better for mopup when used for ventalation at a window or door
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Permalink Reply by Don Zimmerman on
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I have always liked the combination nozzle, has a lot of uses in all kinds of conditions.
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Permalink Reply by derek on
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for me, it depends on the fire to which nozzle i like the best.the best nozzle that protects my men the most and provides the best knock down is the one i like at the time.safety of my men is first and foremost.
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Permalink Reply by Greg Pierce on
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Our common nozzle around here is the TFT combo (fog setting is only used for hydraulic ventilation) or the smooth bore. We have a combination of both nozzles on our various pre-connects. Our Interior FFs know which nozzle is on which pre-connect, so they will grab the handline with their preffered nozzle. The advantage to a smooth bore is a higher concentration of water to penetrate the fire more efficiently, and not upsetting thermal balance too much. It doesnt turn to steam as fast as a fog pattern does, and attacks the fire quicker. A quicker knock down means less of a beating on the first in FFs. Not to mention that when you use a fog pattern and create steam, you stand a good chance of scalding or steam baking the interior crews, which is not good for LODD stats or injury reports. If you cant handle the difference in pressure between a smooth bore and a fog, your place is not in a burning building. I generally grab the smooth bore first.
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Permalink Reply by Lewis Letts III on
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we have all combi selectable gallonage on all but the new truck. The new truck has the saberjet nozzles which is a true smooth bore nozzle and a true fog(combination) in one nozzle. I love them but the feelings are mixed on them, more a training issue (or lack of) than anything. Larger fires I go with the smooth bore, Smaller I will use the combi part of the nozzle. You can also fog and have a smooth bore stream at the same time. The reach sucks, but it can be done.
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Permalink Reply by D.C. Sterbenz on
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I am all fog unless it is a master stream job w/a long reach to hit the fire.
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