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It was a M/C MVA, pt and bike under a car. And NYPD killed him. http://www.firefighternation.com/videos/rush-lift-victim-killed-aft...
You can see the ff's reaction like "Are you frigin kidding me????"
Firefighters.... "Don't worry, we got it."
Police "Oops"
The wannabe firefighters of the NYPD!
Mike,again im dont going against what your saying, everyone has there own way of seeing things an handling there own situations. But i will ask you how are u gonna get O2 on a guy under a car, wearing a full helmet. An also its not the FDNY's job to take EKG'S or pulseox. For 1 they dont carry that stuff on there fire trucks, thats why the have amblances. The 1 thing i will agree on with you is , yes the scene should have been handled better an yes there should have been more pt. contact. You have to remember there may be trained EMT's on there fire trucks with a basic first in bag but, thats only till the EMS gets there with more equipment. An pt. advocate wount stop the adrenaline rush cops at all. Again there's a big difference in the way we all in our own department operate an handle things. We mostly all do the medical field on mva's an rescuse calls cause most of us dont have paid ambulances. Thats not the case with the city! they have approx. 5k rigs FDNY or private hosp. rigs even vol. paid. That is why the fire department does only minimal basic ems work an dont have all the equipment on there trucks an the cops dont have that stuff eighter. But i not trying to get into a pissing match with anyone, im just informing you guys on somethings that have been brought up. Like i said been around the Fdny my whole life my dads retired, an i lived in the city for almost 15 yrs. So if theres a question asked or a comment made about something i know, ill be the first to correct it.
Mike,
This kind of entrapment is likely pretty common in NY, but with 143 ladder companies providing rescue services - in addition to 5 rescue companies and 7 squads - it's unlikely that all 143 ladder companies deal with heavy lifting rescues on a regular basis.
On a minor note, FDNY company officers do not wear red helmets. They wear black helmets with white frontpieces - until they turn black from smoke.
FDNY chiefs and EMS officers wear white helmets. An EMS Lieutenant (tan turnout gear) can be seen donning his white helmet in the 2nd half of the newer Statter911 video.
Police should do police work. They should pull the plug out of the ESU units. It is even common in NYC tat police extricates someone without even calling in the FDNY !!!! It is an ongoing battle and here the victim lost it.
Apart from the war between FDNY and NYPD, the technique used by the ESU was poor and at least careless. Racing to lift a car with a spreader is asking for problems.
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