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Permalink Reply by John Van Coillie on November 25, 2010 at 10:40am

Primary engine-1000 gal. Secondary engine-1000 gal. Primary tanker-4000 gal. Secondary tanker-2000 gal. 6x6 Brush truck-1100 gal. 4x4 Brush truck-200 gal. New Primary engine (arrival date 1/11 by Pierce to replace 26 yr old secondary engine)-750 gal. w/cafs. By the way, will still call a water unit that just hauls water a tanker. Do not use any aircraft to fight fire around here.

Permalink Reply by Ted C Hall on April 27, 2011 at 11:24am

Our first out structure has 750 gallons aboard, as does our other structure/MVA engine, we've never thought about speed... getting there safely is priority #1

Our Mutual Aid plan here in the Bitterroot Valley; though, includes dispatching tenders from the two nearest districts on any structure fire... so there is usually more water than we can use on the way before we get on scene.

Most of the departments have similar structure engine capacities so it's a good deal for everyone...

Our tender can drop a portable tank, dump their load and be on the way back to our 30,000 gallon underground storage in just a few minutes. The other departments haven't fully taken advantage of that yet, but as we train together more they'll get it

We even have a couple of non-standard accessories on our 1,700+ gallon Type 3s as well...

One has another portable tank on the rack!

So with that and the tender we can make one run, using only two drivers and deliver 3,700 gallons on scene, while we're going back for more...

Plus our pre-connects on both Type 3s have at least one structural attack type hose... lastly we carry two SCBA rigs on each Type 3 as well..

Crews on the type 3s have bunker gear too, just in case of an Urban Interface wildfire that involves a structure...


We've got three or four well developed draft spots in district as well... takes 10-15 minutes turn around with the type 3s... only a little longer with the 2,000 gallon tender... The one nearest my house means they can turn around and be back here in under 20 minutes... when the Fire Station is at least a 20 minute drive one way.

Permalink Reply by Doug Hutchison on June 12, 2011 at 7:46pm

We roll a 750 gallon Engine with Class A foam for the attack, followed by our 4000 gallon Tender. We also have 2 other 1000 gallon Engines and another 3000 gallon and 4000 gallon Tender on Automatic Aid responding.

Permalink Reply by carol bartholomew on July 23, 2012 at 5:43pm

Rock River Wyoming has a 1998 pete with 3500 galloons of water and four preconnect hoses.  It has power and can act as a tender or throw water, both came in handy on the arapahoe fire this summer.  makes good sense as we do not take our pumper/engine out of town  andit along with our quick attack and 6x6 can handle whatever is thrown at us in the county

 

Permalink Reply by Mark Klaene on January 26, 2013 at 11:38pm

1st out 1000n gal , second out 780 gals , tenders 3000 gal and 1850 gals 

Our hill is basically one, climbs from 7000 ft msl to 9000 ft msl  or down to 4000 ft msl.

All apparatus are  commercial chassis but spec'd with low axle ratios, and maximum torque. In 1 case an add on low speed turbo.   These usually mean top end speed is only about 60 but hill climbing is pretty good. 

Don't forget retarder brakes, going up fast is good, going down fast --- -not so much

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