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Gung Ho Glory seeker Old guys Bad words
I have noticed these words being used a lot in posts on here. Let me start with some of the "young guys" that use Gung Ho I am glad your ready and able but being Gung ho is not really a positive thing You may feel it but please learn old mother fire needs respect and I hope you learn that before you run somewhere you shouldnt. Slow down be smart and do the job. Glory seeking is a negitive term no matter who you are, if you do this job to be Bull from back draft please stay away from me because if you think you are going to run through fire with no SCBA and a white shirt on and see a child across a burning room and run out with a child under your arm and your shirt is still white?? I have made grabs and been lucky to be there but I know if I was not someone else near me would have and that feels as good knowing. I have also pulled the person I was to late out and that sucks no matter what.. Last old Guy I just hate because damm it I am old@!!!!!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Dan Hoey on
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Thats the fact Erin I just worry about how many get the wrong idea from movies and TV I think a great video was the guys In NC that came out the second story of Resd fire on there bellies because it flashed. Thats how fast cool can turn into bad.
Maybe post what was the first time you said your prayers in a fire and hoped to kiss your family one more time
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Permalink Reply by Terry Lambert on
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I agree. You have to respect fire, or you or someone else get's hurt. Something that these "young one" really need to lear.
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Permalink Reply by Matt on
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I agree with you totally Dan, while I do enjoy and appreciate a good movie about our job, people still need to be able to seperate fact from fiction. All firefighters need to remember that the most important person on that scene is first YOUSELF, Then Fellow firefighters, then on lookers, then the patient. Many lives can be saved if we just take a step back look for the SAFEST way to go about the job.
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Permalink Reply by FF Nick on
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We have a term for the ones that fall under the gung ho category.... its called Rookie, and for the ones that been around for a while they get the title of Pro-Rookie. If your glory seeking you may as well find some other thing to do, its not about awards and decorations, its about providing for your community. If you become a hero to them, take that and put it towards the ambition to keep doing a great job, not as an taunt to all your fellow firefighters.
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Permalink Reply by turk182 on
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My department does not give out awards or decoratons they never have they do not want to encourage stupid behavior. I was also there when things did not go well and i helped the coroner load the victim into the body bag it is not a situation that I want to ever have to go threw again. I think thats some thing these gung ho types don't understand and need to be taught because it was bad enough for me with it being a stranger let alone a friend and fellow firefighter.
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Permalink Reply by Chris Davis on
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Hollywood loves to make it look easy and simple but even in their movies they show the hazards of the job which I am thankful for. (I.E. Backdraft when the rookie pops the door and the beast flashed in his face killing him.) Good lesson here Young Guns please pay attention. Or in Ladder 49 with the firefighter becoming trapped. Same for the Old Dogs, good lesson. It doesnt matter if you are young or old, Probie or Veteran. WE ALL NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER. That's the only way we come home to our families every night. There have been times when we've lost Brothers and civilians because we couldnt get to them in time and times when we've barely escaped with seconds left in our SCBA's. But that is training. Knowing WHEN to go in and When to fall back if it gets to dangerous.
One thing I learned early on was in order to fight the beast you have to respect the beast. You have to know how it acts and in what situations it will do what. But One and all, New or Old We have to keep our heads on our shoulders and remember WE ARE A BROTHERHOOD, We watch each others backs and teach and learn each other. Old Dogs can learn from Probies just as well as the other way around. Let's just all keep that in mind.
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I agree with you fully I just think some are just waiting for that chance to be a hero and need to understand everyone on a fire scene is equally important from the the person that hits the hydrant to the pump op and the guy that saves you venting and the person putting that ladder in the right place.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin King on
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Got to respect the beast or it will eat you.Sucks gettin old don't it bro
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and feeling older by the day lol
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no doubt, can I stop at 46
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Permalink Reply by IDoItAll on
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AMEN!! I was thought a very good lesson not long after I joined. My Chief said to me, "When the tones go off, you don't" The youngin's at our station have said to me, Why do you never run? I have explained that, 1) if you are running how can you do a scene size up, how much do you miss? 2) diving in too fast can be very dangerous and I want to go home 3) how much time do you actually save by running versus being slower ( and safer) a couple seconds? Not worth being in danger or out of breath or missing something vital. I am an "old" one too but I bet you can still learn something from me if you slow down and pay attention!
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Permalink Reply by T.j. on
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Dan I have to agree. I am a young firefighter but I have been around vetrans since I became a member. We have a few new guys who go running for their gear before the tones even finish, don't stop to read the pager and see what it is or anything. I have to agree with the fact that if you dont slow down your going to hurt yourself or someone else. Respect should be the first thing every new firefighter should learn.
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