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Permalink Reply by Bob Allard on March 6, 2011 at 4:30pm

I do at my volunteer company and at the Air Base Fire Dept.

Permalink Reply by Russ Marks on March 6, 2011 at 10:51pm

We have 2, one on the OLD stuff shelve and one on the engine. we made a celler nozzle on a 6 ft pipe that will fit into the center of the nozzle when the insert is removed. Works slick for confined spaces such as small attics, under rasied wood floors and can be puched thru the side of a mobile home. disadvantage is the nozzle itself is heavy.

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on March 7, 2011 at 3:38pm

THey were Called "Navy All Purpose nozzles " aka Rockwell SG-60 besides the spray applicator you had a "Low Velocity Fog Applicator" which typically were 4 -6 feet and curved and the tip had a Pineapple looking nozzle this was designed mainly for reaching under things like Car Chassis (is what most of us used them for most)... I would love to see some of the new guy know it alls at the fire pits at training acadamy using a LVFA when they light off the pit and the instructor makes you wait till it gets going Real good n hot before allowing you to move in on it the other Cool Tool that came with the SG-60 Navy all purpose nozzle was the typically 4' to 6' long Bayonet Nozzle which was a pipe with Just a Hardened tip on the end , the Idea was to work it into a wall past the paster & lathe , sheetrock, through the Engine Compartment sidewall, to help cool it while you messed around trying to open the hood... The Nozzle was developed AT the U.S. Naval Submarine Base during the pre WW2 era to Fight fires mainly On Board Submarines which are very tight confined spaces often , shipboard firefighting is Difficult at best on any vessle with subs compound that many times closing compartments to "hold" it is only so effective.... I believe That the Bayonet Attachment was orginally designed For use ON Air Corps Brigades, since obviously its use would be very limited shipboard.. Note I have seen 3/4" Booster, 1 1/2" , and 2 1/2 " versions of the SG-60

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on March 17, 2011 at 2:40am

I think the biggest problem with these is the Low volume flow by todays standards what like 60 gpm on an inch and a half, I never pumped a 2 1/2 no clue what they would flow and lets face it your lucky to get much of anything out of a 3/4 booster anyway..lol

Permalink Reply by David Wagner on April 12, 2011 at 2:55pm

Used them in 1960's Navy firefighting school in Philly

Permalink Reply by Timothy J. Gaffney, Jr. on April 27, 2011 at 5:53am

The one fire department I used to be with still ran the rockwell nozzle on one of the engines. Very impressive operation.

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on September 26, 2011 at 1:02pm

doing  a search on google  brought up  this thread and  one in Firehouse  forums  circa  2002

which included   FDNY using a Low velocity Fog applicator from the floor above on a hirise apartment this was a  "Hail Mary  Play"  that was a rescue  1  last ditch  Tactic which  in most cases  would NEVER provide enough gpm to  actually  do squat, even as a Holding Tactic  in Most  buildings

http://www.firehouse.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-34689.html

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on December 25, 2011 at 5:28pm

since  that  thread is  only readable   the orginal  had a FDNY hirise  tactic of Using a Low  velocity  Fog  applicator,  operated  From the  floor above/ Given  the  lack of  velocity  this "might  help"  ina situation of  Persons  trapped  on a window  sill... but even  as such   is  pretty  unrealistic, generally  people out on ledges  cannot wait 2 hours  while you  find all the parts and pieces ..etc ..lol

Permalink Reply by Russ on January 11, 2012 at 10:11pm

sure do. used to use them on burning propane training. loved the straight stream

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on June 11, 2012 at 6:36pm

Russ  I  used   them  a) in Propane  Training  as well as b)  square and Z oil Pits  and  we  had a "xmas tree"  with 8 or  10 streams of  oil within  a metal shack,  Our  Burn instructor got  mad at me  because  I put the fire out  before  the shut the flow of oil off, then he said it wasn't hot enough, so he  ran 2 or  3 more senerios , Put me  back on the attack line, and  set it off  again  he  had  me wait  to be sure  it was going good  and  hot, I  advanced in  knocked  the fire  down  and  cooled it eventually  backing  away.... lol   he  said  your not supposed to be able to put out  the xmas  tree  with an Navy nozzle...... lol....  oops  sorry  Capt.....

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on March 15, 2014 at 7:57pm