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Wanted to say this!!
Reading some things I just read and sitting here thinking about it I have only one thing to ask everyone. Which one of you is perfect? Who here has never made mistake? Yes some people have the wrong idea of what doing this job means and yeah there are a few people I have met I wanted to smack with a tool in the head and sadly I have seen mistakes cause others to pay but no one I know is perfect and I have learned from great pros and new probies all the same. I could be like others and sit here and list all the endless classes I have taken or talk about the fires I have seen as both a paid and unpaid professional firefighter but thats not why I am on here. I was on here to share life, laughs, cries and ideas with others that share this life with me.
I lost some very good friends and my brother to this job. I know my fathers life was cut short from years of eating smoke when they thought that was the way to do the job. One thing I know I have learned is There are no easy routine fires or EMS calls and those who fail to learn or don't think they need to are those who get hurt or hurt others I am sorry I am writing this post and if you feel I am being an ass for writing it please say so but if we want to play who's hose is bigger then I will not ever post again
I lost some very good friends and my brother to this job. I know my fathers life was cut short from years of eating smoke when they thought that was the way to do the job. One thing I know I have learned is There are no easy routine fires or EMS calls and those who fail to learn or don't think they need to are those who get hurt or hurt others I am sorry I am writing this post and if you feel I am being an ass for writing it please say so but if we want to play who's hose is bigger then I will not ever post again
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Permalink Reply by turk182 on
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I know i am not perfect i make my fair share of mistakes and try to learn from them so i do not do it again but you always know in the back of you mind the next one is just around the corner. i do not know what the post was about but you hit the nail on the head there are alot of people who think they are the best and know everything but since we are not allowed to smack them with tools we have to either walk away or stand and argue with them.
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Permalink Reply by Dan Hoey on
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Sorry all I just was pissed off at this so called officer that went on here and bashed another person by name and that got me so angry. I don't understand people that do things like that or try and belittle others in this forum I don't care if you are a volunteer in rural east bumf;;; or work in FDNY fire is fire and if you been 5 or 4000 this year you deserve respect and my understanding I sorry I wrote this post in anger.
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Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on
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Dan, what you did is very admirable. You did what a brotherhood does and stuck up for one of our own. Great job, I would be proud to work alongside you. NOONE is perfect. Thats the reason we train to attempt to perfect something before the standard changes and we have to train on the new methods.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin King on
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Each one of you that got my back I am proud to know you,its folks like you that make individuals like that tolerable.Again thanks guys
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Permalink Reply by Bill Brierton on
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No, you're not an ass. Everybody makes mistakes so far mine have been minor and only affected me. Like losing a boot on the way to a call and the engine was a half cab. Went to put the pants and boots on, and one boot decided it didn't want to go along for the ride. What makes it even more embarrassing is the deputy chief who was driving the chief's car behind the engine ran over my boot. Then there was the one time I tried to lay out with our new SCBA bottles. They were a bit heavier than I expected and when I went to pull the lay out line I fell on ass in front of the chief.
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Permalink Reply by Terry Lambert on
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It was wrong the way that he went about doing what he did. Regardless of what ever point he was trying to make. Company buisness between member's stay's in the company. You do not need to bring it here where anyone and everyone can see it.
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I agree with you Erin. They where good groups, and post.
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Permalink Reply by Mick Mayers on
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All of us make mistakes; if anything, I tell my guys if they aren't making mistakes from time to time, they probably aren't doing anything worthwhile. They aren't called "stretch" goals because you can make them easily.
I've found that when I screw something up, its time for some serious introspection, then note the lessons learned. There's a lot to be said for not repeating the same mistake, so I'd rather learn the first time.
But the relative anonymity of the internet gives some well-intentioned people a place to hide, of course, and get honest feedback about problems that perplex them, without calling themselves out. After all, if you had a problem with your officer and no one will listen, where do you get advice? Well, you can get it in the Wild Wild West (www) where there are hundreds like you who have similar problems and nowhere to go, and plenty of people to bounce ideas and thoughts off of. I think it's called networking.
When you're trying to be a progressive firefighter, learning from others, offering assistance, forming groups and encouraging young probies (like someone was actually doing), it tells me more about that person's character than anyone could imagine. I said this on my blog I think: maybe someone here is considered the low man on the totem pole where he or she is, like they don't have a good idea at all, but if something they say can spark a revolution, isn't the whole concept worthwhile? Doesn't it really have meaning?
I agree with you all; it was a poor way to handle the situation.
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I have been lucky with my mistakes and trust me after 20 yrs I have made a few. I mean I watch a guy cut a whole around himself on a flat roof trust me he took a lot of crap and if I did have a problem with someone I would take them aside and try and help them I have probies that come to my house and we sit and talk and BS about the world of fire and EMS and the reason they feel safe doing it is I never belittle them or talk down to them I try and teach. On a fire scene I make sure when its possible to teach I have stop an attack line with some guys and told look see how the fire is acting watch the changes or have had them try and stand a little to feel the heat changes or watch smoke colors change. If we just look down our noses and not try and help then when you need that guy and he is not there to help don't blame them blame yourself for not teaching
The last thing is when I feel I no longer need to train practice and learn will be the last trip I ride on a truck
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If you guys dont mind giving me a hand we'll try and rebuild them.I'm lucky to have you folks as friends/FAMILY.
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