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Hey all this may be a little strange but could someone please to me how your alarm system in the states work as in what resources turn up on which alarm , this is so that i can equate it to the alarm system that we have here in Newzealand,
Thanks
Rod
Thanks
Rod
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Permalink Reply by Rod Irvine on
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wow thanks guys , that sort of helps , it seems that the biggest difference between here and there (US)is the amount of man power and gear you can get your hands on .
This will make it easier for me when i see the home page here with such and such battling a 3 alarm fire ,
Rod
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Permalink Reply by Just Plain Craig Moyer on
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In New Castle County ours is prettymuch the same except we had a rescue for each alarm. We don't double pull companies so if stations 30-14-21-23 are on the first alarm then 17-16-28-32 would be on the second alarm, so on and so on.
A company can send a bonus piece if its a working alarm and they have man power. If their called for an engine they must bring an engine. They can't bring a rescue or ladder unless its a pumper- rescue (306) and not a rescue-pumper (R30) (don't ask its been argued for the last couple of years) No dispatched chief response since we're all vollies.
Engine companies used to be 2 pieces but now thier one. A ladder company used to be an engine and ladder now its just a ladder.
Depending on the time of day most companies are single dispatched to autos, mvc and single family AA's. We don't do boxes anymore (since the early 70's?)
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Permalink Reply by Scotty V on
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Basically anything over the 1st alarm (or all hands in service) is big, the alarm factors can also be from weather conditions too...One time we had a 5 alarm fire going but in reality it was a 2 alarm fire but we called in the extra 3 alarms due to the heat being over 100 deg. Fahrenheit
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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We sent the following - it can vary a little depending on specific caller reports or a member of service reporting the call/better information
Odors/smells - 1 engine minimum, if a serious problem like a gas leak, it gets upgraded to 2 engines, a truck, and a battalion chief.
Fire alarm sounding - 2 engines.
Extrication/Rescue - 1 medic company, 1 engine, 1 truck, 1 battalion chief.
A structural collapse, trench cave-in, or other large or serious incident gets the heavy rescue and a Type II USAR team.
Brush/woods fire - 1 engine unless endangering a structure or other high-value exposure, then it gets a full structure fire assignment.
Structure fire - 3 engines, 1 truck, 1 medic, 1 battalion chief.
Working Incident call at a structure fire usually gets 2 or 3 staff chiefs, the air utility, and 1 additional engine along with extra law enforcement, utilities, and Emergency Management.
Hazmat - 1 engine for small spills/leaks, whatever engines/trucks are needed plus the Hazmat Team and the air utility for large spills/leaks.
Medical - no life threat - 1 medic company
Medical - life threat - 1 medic company plus the next closest unit (engine, truck or 2nd due medic)
Off airport plane crash - full structure assignment, 2 to 3 staff chiefs, and an ARFF unit.
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actually im blue watch reliever at 41 and the command goes on 2nd for veg too cos i have dribven it to a 2nd alarm , and your right it does vary as well but not as much as auckland , i was stationed there for 5 years so put up the most common one I know , see you at the big one .........
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Permalink Reply by Norm Tindell on
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In our state each county does it differently. The best system we're involved in is a box system. Each type of incident gets a pre-planned response in each box. Each resource is identified in the plan. If a department cannot fulfill the need dispatch tones the next department on the list designated for that box. Last night we responded an engine and a tanker on a first alarm along with identical resources from two other departments. Every resource need was filled on the first call. Everyone knows what to expect and, depending on the box, where it's coming from. We burn a lot more fuel than we used to because on a third alarm we respond half way across the county, but the box system gets more units rolling sooner. Definitely more efficient than the older, more haphazard system in which dispatchers and incident commanders requested needs a la carte as an incident progressed.
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they are working on that now
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