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Is Houston Dishonoring a Brother Firefighter?
The Houston Fire Department had another LODD yesterday. This time it was a cadet that while running at the academy last week fell out. He was transported to the hospital where a week later he died. Now for the real tragedy. HFD officials are not treating this as a line of duty death, They didn’t even inform the members of the department about him till hours 10 hours after he passed. This is a sad day in the fire service when a firefighter dies in the LODD and the department refuses to give him the proper service.
What do you all think? If a cadet that dies during training a LODD and should he be giving the proper funeral?
What do you all think? If a cadet that dies during training a LODD and should he be giving the proper funeral?
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Permalink Reply by FF Nick on
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Most def LODD! This is a sad day... thoughts and prayers to all the family and friends involved.
I'm sure a call to one good an attorney could get the matter straightened out or at least clarified. Firefighters are firefighters, from cadets/probies all the up to the cheif.
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Permalink Reply by Beverly on
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Sounds like they are trying to limit their liability and keep their public image from being quite so tarnished.
This is unfortunate on so many levels:
1. The recruit is not being given the recognition he deserves for his effort.
2. His family is not getting the support that they so need at this point.
3. His "fire family" has to grieve in private/ under the radar...what a way to foster on the job stress!
4. Will this impinge on the department reviewing its training methods?
God bless and God speed, the rest of us can honor you even if your own dept cannot.
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Permalink Reply by John Rulli Jr. on
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This is a LODD!!! The Houston FD should be ashamed of themselves
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Permalink Reply by Smoke Eater on
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Yes, this should fall under LODD. Even if he was a cadet, it was still FD training.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Lintz on
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Absolutly.... LODD
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Permalink Reply by steven burkins on
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I think that they should be honored just like a firefighter would be they are pretty much a firefighter just a little younger I should know im a cadet myself.
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Permalink Reply by Fire Chick on
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we just had one around here last year.. he was an instructor and he was teaching a class and had a heart attack.. they said it was an LODD, so i dont see a differecne.. this should be considered and LODD also..
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Permalink Reply by Art "ChiefReason" Goodrich on
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The cause of death hasn't been determined yet.
Following the LODD guidelines; no determination of LODD can be decided until a cause of death is made.
We are too early to make any assumptions.
Yes; I agree that it appears that he was engaged in activities that would fall under the language.
But remember; we are dealing with a bureacracy and not the obvious.
By the way, the City of Houston website doesn't even have the death up on the website.
Now, that IS dishonoring the firefighter.
TCSS.
Art
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Permalink Reply by Mick Shelley on
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I have to agree with you 110% on that Chief
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Permalink Reply by John Crabbe on
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I guarantee you this is an LODD. I just left the NFA and when we went to class after lunch the other day, the flags at the Fallen FF Memorial were at full staff. Once class got out they were at half and the notice was for this LODD.
I don't know much about Houston, so I don't think that anybody should criticize how things were done or notifications handled, unless you have factual proof because you were there.
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Permalink Reply by Shane Wood on
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I thought about it after reading the posts in this forum and looked at the USFA's website and they have him listed as a LODD. Here is the link:
http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/applications/ffmem/ffmem_detail.jsp?p_id=3703
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Permalink Reply by Chris Hayden on
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Houston FD has had their share of problems with administration in the past. Anyone remember the vote of no confidence in their chief?
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