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How many firefighters should be at the station at all times? Eather they are working a 12 hour or 24 hour or more.
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Permalink Reply by Jay Nicholson on
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The more the merrier. But it really boils down to how much you can pay for. My city runs 2 3-man engine companies with a private EMS service providing paramedic services. Would I like to see 4-man staffing? Absolutely. But at the very least, that would add about $600K to the budget.
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Permalink Reply by Jake Fireman on
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Jay is right. It depends on what your city/ounty can afford, how busy you are etc. My departments staffs 3 on the engine, 4 on the truck and 2 on the "box". I would love it if the engine was 4 and the truck was 5. Full staffing is always better as far as Im concerned. I worked in a department as a reserve where the city staffed a paif engineer and captain on the engine and a paid firefighter on the ambulance, then ran either 1 or 2 reserves on the engine to be firefighters and 1 on the ambulance to ride in the back with patients...no bueno!
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Permalink Reply by Mick Shelley on
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I also have to agree with Jay, however we have just three men at the station that are paid, a engineer, officer,
and a firemen, and we only work a 8 hour shift, 8 to 4, Mon. thru Fri.
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I should have added, this is 24hr shift.
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oh yeah...mine too...all 24's.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Lintz on
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My current dept staffs a engine with 3 or 4, if we have 3 on we also have a first responder to make the forth.
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Permalink Reply by Tony P on
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I'll differ from the preceeding posts. In most cases I don't see how you can have people "at the station at all times". If there's a call, they'll probably all be out at it.
Now if you're asking how many should be rostered on duty in any shift at a career station - that's a different question. Some of our career stations have three - which is a standard career crew. Other career stations are much busier and have multiple crews on every shift. Our career staff shifts are all 10/14, four on four off.
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Permalink Reply by Chad Furr on
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We are a vollie dept so no one. LOL However our tax payers did vote for FT EMS service for the dist. Maybe some day we will have FT ff's there but not holding my breathe.
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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There are consultation companies that can provide you with accurate information on how many personnel should be on duty at the station. This complex study is far from asking a lazy question as posed here. There are too many factors that are involved with the study to produce such a document with any credibility.
Population Day; Population Night; Industry; Target Hazards; Are you doing only Fire, or Rescue, Hazmat, EMS as well? # Calls, Inspections, Code Enforcement, Traffic Studies need to be done, GIS Mapping for proper station locations as well. What is your target response time? NFPA says 4 minutes for FT / 8 for Vol from time of tone. I can keep going on and on but your 30 second post is not worth the hundreds of hours it would take to provide the credible end result.
I didn't even get to what can your municipality can actually afford in this economy? I am seeing FT departments go to volunteer because thats what they can afford, but can justify the need to be FT. You get what you can pay for.
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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That depends on the number of units assigned to the station, whether the department is career, volunteer, or a mix, and on manpower availability.
Typical staffing for career departments is 2 per ambulance/medic, 3 or 4 on an engine, 3 or 4 on a truck, and 2 to 4 on a rescue, but that can vary widely as well. All-volunteer departments often have no one in the station.
In my previous department, I worked a heavy rescue staffed with...me, and occasionally with one other rescue specialist.
NFPA 1710 for career departments and NFPA 1720 for volunteer departments has the current national standard guidelines for staffing and initial response.
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