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RIT/RIT/FAST Taskforce
Dose anyone run with a or have a RIT taskforce. There is a lot of dicussion in my county about this topic and I am looking for any SOG's or info about them so I can share this info with others.
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Permalink Reply by Mike 63 DC on
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I agree with everything said up to this point. You must have an established RIT/FAST team standing by during entrance to any IDLH whether it be at a fire, hazmat or technical rescue. I would love to get a hold of some of the SOGs for the RIT Taskforce or RIT/FAST policies any of your departments have. My company does do RIT/FAST team as mutual aide to our surrounding municipalities and we run with other established RIT/FAST teams as the 2nd or 3rd RIT /FAST team. So I guess it could be considered a Taskforce, but we all have our own SOG's that are similar. It would definitely be good to operate off the same guidelines. I think a lot of companies establish themselves as RIT/FAST teams without knowing the extent of training and dedication to the TRUE meaning of a RIT/FAST Team. Some companies just do it for the calls, which is fine as long as the team knows the true purpose and training required to be an effective well trained and organized team. My county doesn't have any set policies for a RIT/FAST team which is just unacceptable in this day and age. All companies Career or Volunteer should be trained at a minimum level to do RIT so that at least a two man team or Co. can setup immediately while the initial attack is underway until the dedicated RIT/FAST team arrives. Then that brings up the whole other topic of using the companies closer within a geographical area rather then who is friends with who this week. I believe some of the career city departments & busier volunteer departments have excellent RIT/FAST team policies and that they could definitely work for smaller city or suburban companies, paid or volunteer. As long as they are adapted for each department or area. I think a RIT/FAST team Taskforce would /could be a very good thing for any volunteer department(s) that have the potential for staffing or training issues.
If anyone has any SOGs or SOPS on the taskforce concept or dispatching a RIT/Fast Team please let me know.
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Permalink Reply by ILDisasterEMT on
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please send me a copy via PM. Thanks.
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Mike-
To my understanding in the early days of my training here, this is how my department does it. I am now taking FF2 and we will be talking about and studying RIT/RIC/FAST tomorrow in our safety/accountability procedures class. I believe that we all follow what the NFPA mandates which his that if you have two firefighters go in, two stand ready to go in for a "MAYDAY" call-out or if it becomes apparent after a certain amount of time that the initial crew isnt coming back out, due to lost air, disorientation, unconsciousness, etc. Basically the way it has been explained to me is that we just have to two or 4 firefighters geared up and ready to go in on a "SAR" operation at a moments notice. Basically all they have to do is don their masks and turn on their air. I have also been wondering how this might link up with the PASS system set-up. I am starting to get involved with the USCG Auxiliary and though we have to pay for them ourselves (about $700) we are encouraged to purchase and wear on our PFC's a device called an EPIRB (Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon) which will not only flash a strobe and emit and aubible sound for up to 8-10 hours, it will also send a distress signal at 460 Mhz which can be picked up by transponder. Of course, these EPIRBS on that frequency would bring the nearest Coast Guard helos over head, but if another frequency could be used, even in pitch black, zero visibility situation, the downed firefighter can be tracked to within inches of his position. Anyone use anything like this?
My understanding is the NFPA mandates that some sort of RIT system be established but does not indicate what exactly it has to be...YET. I know they also use the tried and true "two in, two out" meaning that a single firefighter is never left behind even if his partner has to make a rapid egress. Will right more after class tomorrow.
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Permalink Reply by Art "ChiefReason" Goodrich on
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Here's one that I found:
http://wsp.wa.gov/fire/bff1prog/rit_team_lp.pdf
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Here's another one:
http://www.auburn-hills.org/departments/firedept/Standard%20Operati...
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Permalink Reply by Mike Lewis on
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Wow, I didnt realize just how hot a topic this is. Moreover, it seems that while we discuss FAST/RIT/RIC on a daily basis, it seems to be a fairly grey area. Im not sure thats a good thing, but, thats what these discussions are for.
Its seems that theres a ton of SOG's written that work for "Some Department USA" that works for them. Thats GREAT! Implimenting a program is step 1. Let me throw out a few thoughts I would like to hear others respond to.
- Is your FAST/RIT/RIC comprised of your companies Firefighters?
- Is your FAST/RIT/RIC team mutual aid?
- If you answer yes to the above, do you train with them?
- Is your equipment, such as buddy systems, radio frequencies, SCBA, or other Districts SOG's compareable, or even acceptable, to yours?
- Can you guarantee a "full crew" when called upon to your neighbor, or visa versa?
- Is your FAST/RIT/RIC training "standardized" with those you will serve and those that will serve you?
- At what level is your training?
- Do you have a backup team?
These are just a couple things to brew on folks. Of course, the biggest question is this.
Based on the fact of what we do and that there isnt any one of us who wouldnt hang their ass out for a brother or sister,,,,, If your Department got banged out RIGHT NOW as a FAST/RIT/RIC team, are you trained enough, supplied with the proper tools and competent enough to do the task, safely and successfully? You might say yes personally, but , how many others in your company would YOU say yes to to save your ass or someone elses?
Love to hear your comments,,, this is a great discussion ,,,keep it going!
Stay Safe Everyone!
Mike
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Just wanted to share a quick powerpoint put together regarding RIT which was presented at our company training meeting the other night. Maybe this can give anyone interested some ideas. Check it out,,,a couple slides are of our RIT bag you may find boring, but, the presentation is pretty good. Its a pretty big file and its gonna take a bit to download. Take the time to check it out,,,its worth it! Please feel free to give some feedback too! Special thanks to Lt. Carao for putting this together,,,nice job Dave!
Stay Safe,
Mike - Attachments:
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RIT Training 2.13.08.ppt, 39.9 MB
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Permalink Reply by Earl on
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we have a RIT Team. our dept. set it up every time we have a house fire, and training at the burn field . we also train for the use of the RIT Team. we never had to use it
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Permalink Reply by Marc Hansen on
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David, What we have done is desiginate one of our mutual aid departments as our RIT team and added another mutual aid department to our structure responses to take their place. They have desiginated us as their RIT and just added another company to take our place in the line. We do train with them on a regular basis and both RIT bags are laid out the same. In addition all required equipment for RIT on their engine and our rescue is centrally located on the trucks. Our SOP's for RIT are identical by design. The idea is for a crew of 6 to be the RIT team, all depts involved are vollies and all the line officers know if RIT vehicle shows up with less than 6 to pull the apropriate amount of people(properly trained) for RIT and request additional resources. In addition for all of our commercial area the predesignated 2nd alarm is for ladders,tankers and an additional RIT department. This setup has allowed us to gain the benefit of a dedicated RIT with minimal cash outlay for either department. Another department in our area was a leading componet of starting abbetrit and have basically trained their department to be one huge RIT team available to anyone that needs it(they are our second RIT company at commercial jobs). Check out their website www.abbetrit.org and it will give links to different departments that use their system and contact info for the organization
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Permalink Reply by Moose on
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Here in Schoharie County we have a County team that I am on. We have members from all over the county, and we have RIT Bags stationed in fire houses all over the county as well. When called, we call on air adn if we have a bag or not. When atleast 4 members have arrived on scene we are in service, and we are usually ready within 5 minutes of the call. We also acquire a lot of stuff from trucks on scene.
When we get there, we do a walk around, throw ladders, clear obstructions and hazards, do a rapid size-up and than report to the CP to stand by. Our bags have a RIT pack, ropes, hardware ( Biners, ascenders, pulleys, Etc) tubular webbing, harnesses, and some hand tools. We grab a TIC from the County Coordinator and other tools from the scene, like saws and what not. It works well, and we are only in our 4th or 5th year of operation so we are still learning and improving as we go.
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Permalink Reply by David Johns on
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Check out sending some guys for training on this in North Carolina at www.gastonfire.com. These guys offer some of the best training on RIT you will ever see.
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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Your post is a little vague, RIT Taskforce? Do you mean 1-engine 1-ladder 1-HR? or are you trying to deploy a County Wide RIT Taskforce? A single RIT team with members from all different departments? I find this concept OK for Hazmat as we isloate; deny entry and identify while awaiting the regional hazmat team.
RIT deployment or activation within the modern era lightweight building construction will warrant and proven, with recent fatal LODD's with first due companies within the first ten minutes when a regional team is still on the road/ not on scene or ready to deploy. Also funding, insurance, liability, equipment and training issues. There was discussion about a regional Task Force being formed for on-call RIT around here...
Concerns as previously stated plus think about; arrival times being from different towns and all the different SCBA's, not everyone has NFPA spec 2007 SCBA's, plus the issue of POV's racing through towns that didn't have a municipal FD response, the issue of having a POV accident and who would own that firefighter's LODD?
I have been preaching that you need to manage the mayday yourself. Right down to acknowledging the EDS- emergency distress signal instead of dispatch. If you are not big enough to fulfill RIT by yourself, then you should be buddying up with a neighboring community and doing a certified RIT class for every member of BOTH departments. This gets everyone on the same training page and you can be their RIT at their fires, (vice-versa) Add them onto your run card as the RIT and backfill the response you stole from them, meaning add another tanker or engine that you would not normally get from them.
OK you need them for initial arrival or auto response manpower, then maybe you ask one town out to be the RIT, and vice-versa. Also this allows you to get a Chief Officer from that neighboring RIT response, so when the mayday goes down, you can expand the ICS Command Staff using CRM. That is the Phase-3 after getting everyone trained, RIT Policies and Procedures established, and then Command Operations of a FIRE and a MAYDAY.
Check out my website/training at: www.fetcservices.com
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