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SCBA on the Roof?
Below are a series of photos courtesy "FirehouseGuy" from theWatchDesk.com from a daytime house fire last week in Maryland.
These photos are circulating around the Web on sites such as Firefighter Close Calls on the aspect of firefighter safety ... with the site noting "No one hurt but good pictures from the scene drawing "THINK" attention to PPE, SCBA and roof operations. While we love roof operations when needed, we are don't love un-needed exposure to the smoke -- today's smoke is some nasty crap.....we need to THINK. 1000 active Firefighters die each year to cancer."
What are your thoughts and your department's SOPs for firefighters operating on the roof of structure firefighters?
These photos are circulating around the Web on sites such as Firefighter Close Calls on the aspect of firefighter safety ... with the site noting "No one hurt but good pictures from the scene drawing "THINK" attention to PPE, SCBA and roof operations. While we love roof operations when needed, we are don't love un-needed exposure to the smoke -- today's smoke is some nasty crap.....we need to THINK. 1000 active Firefighters die each year to cancer."
What are your thoughts and your department's SOPs for firefighters operating on the roof of structure firefighters?
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Permalink Reply by Cris on
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I absolutley agree with Jeff... I honestly dont think anyone should be on that roof, SCBA or not! I see a compromised roof and a situation that could prove to be life lost.
So Many things wrong here... Sad :(
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Permalink Reply by Chief 29 on
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Unfortunately this is done way to often. There are a lot of firefighters in general who have become to comfortable with there jobs/tasks that they react without thinking safety due to the fact that they probably play like they practice and or they don't even train in the first place. It looks like he took the time to put his hood on and his radio for communication. Why even bother wasting your time to put your hood on if you don't plan on putting a pack on, and I don't mean just wearing it I mean going on air. Not only that were is his partner. Well at least if he falls in or off the roof you only have to worry about one guy, right? How many times have you seen this on a routine chimney fire were the firefighter is looking down the chimney while dropping down the chains to. All the while they are eating the soot, ash, and smoke without any type of SCBA and their shield up and not even a pair of safety glasses on. Hell half the time they don't even take the time to put on gloves.
Let's face it they might think that when they see themselves in these type of pictures that it looks cool but in reality the c to me is replaced with an f. Why would you put yourself in this type of situation without taking the proper safety percautions and then when you get hurt every body screams well nobody told me to wear a pack. Please pull your head out of your a## and man up and take responsability for your own safety. Well I guess it is to easy to blame someone else for your stupidity.
Sorry I'll quit ranting.
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Permalink Reply by Ed Decatur on
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is the guy on the roof a moron? where is his SCBA??? Does he realize how much plastics are in homes today? Never mind the other bad stuff we take for granted that we never even think about.
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I agree 100% well said
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Permalink Reply by Spanner 122 on
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SCBA, no questions! We've lost too many already, three currently off receiving treatment... We aren't protected from everything, do what you can when you can. Sometimes we are led by authority, not intelligence. Your life is in your hands!
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Permalink Reply by Teddy on
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Every Firefighter MUST wear there SCBA when they are in an IDLH environment, no excuses
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Permalink Reply by Eric T Mcvey on
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Our SOG'S say we HAVE TO WEAR AN SCBA on roof operations, have a backup at the bottom of the ladder ready for rescue. Also I see NO I.C. We do nothing without an I.C. I think that the roof has vented itself and the roof might be about ready for a collapse. It is not correct to risk a fellow firefighters life in this situation.
Todd
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Permalink Reply by Chad K.Cole on
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I agree 100%!! This department needs to step back and look at these pics like we are and use them to their advantage.
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Permalink Reply by Jeremy Harvey on
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coming from a small town volunteer system you take the help you can get. Even though we are all cerified before we work on a fire the older guys that never used scba don't like starting using it. If they had seen something only a seasoned member would have noticed, this guy may have saved someones life by going up there. We don't encourage stuff like this but things happen for a reason.
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Permalink Reply by Mark on
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Ok, I'll get hammered here. I've always believed the BIGGEST danger of being on a roof is FALLING OFF. He's nt on a roof ladder so that increases the danger there. That being said. If I'm going to fall off a roof, and I have actually (minor injuries 20+ yrs ago luckily!) I do NOT want to be wearing a pack! If I am opening a hole, I'll keep my face away from the vented crap. If I need to egress in a hurry, I don't want a pack slowing me down. By the way, I am the same way when we go out on our boat. Biggest danger is drowning. I don't want to be wearing turn-out gear on the boat!
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Permalink Reply by Kimberly A Bownas on
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first of all he/she is on the roof by him/herself, when they should have a partner. I don't see a roof ladder (doesn't mean it isn't there) and then the fact that he/she is up there without SCBA is just amazing. there is no excuse for him/her to be up there without SCBA. I really hope somebody in that department talked to that firefighter and said that should and will not happen again. Unbelievable.
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