How many of you are currently carrying large diameter hose? I am talking about 5 inch diameter or larger.
How much of it are you carrying on your units?
We have 800 feet on our Engine 3. It takes up alot of room, but is well worth it.
Also, is it set up for quick couple or are your connections threaded?

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I keep hearing about how everyone loves 5" hose except for having to load it back. We carry 1500' of 5" on our 1st due engine and roughly 1200' on our 2nd. There is a simple way to load this hose, and can be done with 5 people. One person drives the engine, straddled the hose. Two people on top to ensure the hose lays correctly. (All couplings get staggered to the forward end of the hose bed.) One person on the tailboard to make the folds @ the rear of the hose bed. On person on the ground. This last person does two jobs. He assists in pulling the hose and serves as a ground guide for the engine driver. When you load hose like this, all connections are left in place, since this serves to pull a vaccum on the hose and help it to lay flat in the hose bed. Hope this helps somebody out there.
Our Dept. has LDH about 1200 feet of it with the Storz couplings on them, as well as some shorter lengths for hydrant hook-ups. I have only seen us have about a 100-200 feet of it deployed though.
We find that loading 5 inch hose isn't really a big problem. We typically use three or four firefighters to load the hose, but will use more if they're available. The procedure is that we break all of the couplings and let the hose gravity drain as much as possible. We then have two people walk the hose with a 6-foot hook or pry bar held at waist level between them. The LDH rides up over the hose, draining the water both ways. A third firefighter kneels on the end of the hose behind the hose walk team so that the hose doesn't slide. Once the hose walk team gets all of the water drained out of the end behind them, the third firefighter puts a Dutchman in the hose so that air will not be sucked into the hose as the water drains out the other end.

The hose walk team walks steadily down the hose with the third firefighter following about 10 feet behind, keeping the hose tight behind the walk team. Once the walk team gets to the far end of the hose, that end gets a Dutchman to keep the air out.

The hose can them be loaded by having the engine back up to each coupling, and the hose loaded with one firefighter in the bed stacking the hose, one on the tailboard feeding hose, and at least one firefighter on the ground pulling the hose slowly so that the Dutchman doesn't fall apart and suck air into the hose.

This works regardless of the amount of hose being loaded - 100 feet or 1000 feet. If you have to load 1000 feet, just drain all ten sections first, then load the hose.
Three front runs have 1000' each of 5" Storz and 400" 3".
Do any of you have a truck that was specifically designed to carry large diameter hose or did you have to re-configure your existing hose bed to accommodate it?
Are there retractable hose reels for the large hose?
TCSS.
Art
yes 750ft on primary pumper and 150 on 2nd line truck
Steve,

In reading your post, I read where you said the 5" is hard to move without 2-3 good sized people. Have you ever tried using webbing looped around the hose and then slung over your shoulder and across your chest? This gives you the advantages of not having to lift the hose high to move it and being able to use your legs and body weight to move the hose with less chance of a back injury. It still isn't easy, but it's a little better than trying to move it conventionally.
Any pictures available, Ted? That truck would be seed material for a water supply task force somewhere.
We don't have LDH, unless you count the 6" intake off the front bumper. Then i guess each pumper has 15 feet. All of our trucks run with 3 1/2", except engine 1 which has 4 in. We can't find 3 1/2" any more so that's why the 1 truck has 4 in.. 5 inch LDH is great but not when you have to hand jack it more than 100 foot or so.
Have you considered a hose clamp? That way, you can empty sections before you move it!
Better still; make sure that when you lay it, it is where you want it.
Just a thought.
TCSS.
Art
I'm not for sure that their our depts left that don't carry atleast 5 inch now.... We are a small dept and we carry... Great for structures as along as you know you water source is not going to run out.... relays .. a crapper to load up in the end ,but worth it...
We have no 5"

Engine 1 - 1400' of 4"
Engine 2 - 1400' of 4"
Quint 1 - 1100' of 4"
Tanker 1 - 2200' of 4"

In the winter time we will pack the rear bed of a 4x4 utility pickup with 600' of 4" with a manifold and some 2 1/2" attack line in case we have a steep private driveway that was not plowed.

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