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Comment by Jeff Cole on November 30, 2010 at 10:54am

There's all kinds of water-supply methods out there. We used to use 3" too...in the 70's and into the 80's. Makes little sense anymore, but that's there situation. Judging by the amount of apparatus on the scene, the aerials in position, etc., it would appear this video began shooting awhile after the first in compannies arrived. I don't like playing to the crowd, but they do have a point.
Barracaded entry encountered, understandable. however it does seem it did take an unaaceptable amount of time to change tactics. Engines in the right positon, once you determine the interior companies cannot make entry, back into the stairwell, open up a deck gun for 30 seconds or so, and knock it down. The auto-exposure problem should have been addressed sooner. But even the best of us have things go wrong from time to time. I'll bet they weren't happy with that one either.

Comment by Ken Swain on November 5, 2010 at 3:35am

Not wearing gloves, not utilizing SCBA, chief not packed up...I see a lot of mistakes here..where's the safety officer when you need him?

Comment by Kevin Burks on October 24, 2010 at 10:35am

There may be many reasons for the the delay of water to the fire ,, but there is NO excuse for not wearing there SCBA while in the smoke ...NONE

Comment by the Happy Medic on October 22, 2010 at 10:45pm

Brian - We run 3" lines, not LDH as you can clearly see. SOG is 1st engine to the reported address, quick attack. 2ndengine backs down and lays to a supply after connecting 1 of the 2 supply lines. The second is a backup line in case more volume is needed. 3rd engine can also lay in supply from the other direction. Uncharged supply lines here are within SOGs and good fire ground practice.
Edward - No pump failure, just a need to redeploy companies to fight it from the outside in after encountering a barricaded entry.
Michael - right on the money.

Comment by Edward Roble on October 20, 2010 at 7:30am

I don't know why the delay; the Firefighter on the nozzle was yelling where is the water? Even if he knew guys were inside and didn't want him pushing the fire back in on them. They should have had the lines charged. I wonder if the pump didn't fail on the first in Pumper. If you pay attention supply lines on the ground to the trucks were charged, the only uncharged lines were the lines to fight the fire with. One of the pumps may have failed and they may have had to scramble to get water to another Pumper and reconnect the handlines to that Engine. As Incident commander I had that situation happen to me once. Sometimes Equipment fails and you have to think fast , regroup and get additional sources to help.

Comment by Michael McCarthy on October 19, 2010 at 1:12pm

Engine company first job is getting water on the fire. How the first line goes is how the fire goes ??Maybe had a difficult time gaining entry into apt??

Comment by Matt Hatfield on October 19, 2010 at 12:08am

"It took the fire dept forever to get the water to it from the exterior. I'm sure there was a logical explanation"

Not knowing the SOG's pf the SFFD, I would say that it looks like the 1st units are committed to , search and rescue on a multi-floor dwelling and yeah I guess there could have been a water supply issue, but 3-4 floors to search might just take a little time.