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Comment by Fireman Larry on April 15, 2011 at 5:44pm

I take it you didn't read the caption attached... It's right there...

In the raw video above, you will see the apparatus enter the intersection at :36 seconds. The rollover happened last August in Ashley, Indiana. Two firefighters on the way to a house fire suffered minor injuries.

Comment by Mike "Lapo" Lapotasky on April 5, 2011 at 8:32am

I also agree with my buddy VIN from PGFD! What ABOUT THE CREW? Anybody care about their health or safety after the crash? We are supposed to all be brothers and sisters. We make mistakes. Critiquing is NOT judging!

Comment by Mike "Lapo" Lapotasky on April 5, 2011 at 8:30am

Speed is clearly an issue. However, someone already said this...the driver had to go wide because of the dipshit in the Cavalier pulled up too far. People do this shit all the time. We actually have NO idea how fast they were going based on this video. Nobody does unless you all read an incident report that I didn't. Anybody know how fast a tanker has to be going to tip like that? Tankers are too dangerous and need to be redesigned including better baffles inside to stop sloshing. PERIOD. These incidents happen TOO OFTEN with tankers.

Speed was a factor, but we don't know if the driver only saw that car at the last second. BUT...tanker driver's need to slow down. It is NOT an Engine or a truck for that matter. The fluid dynamics change everything.

Comment by Bobby Hunter on March 31, 2011 at 12:03pm

I agree speed was a little fast (driver should be re-trained), but don't just look at him for the cause of the accident. If you look where the car on the cross street was (back wheels past the stop line, front in the middle of the intersection) there is almost no room to make that turn without swinging really wide which caused the driver to make a sudden out swing then rapid swing back in which even at a slower speed would of caused trouble. With the actions of the driver in the car, He should be charged with 1) failure to stop at a stop sign or 2) Failure to yield to an emergency vehicle. This video shows 2 issues, 1) failure to stop at a stop sign/failure to yield to an emergency vehicle 2)excessive speed by the Tanker driver.

As a drive myself, I know to always expect the unexpected when driving and remember 3-5 miles per hour difference is all the difference from getting there safe and not making it at all.

Comment by Roy Walker on March 31, 2011 at 12:04am

It is your job to get your apparatus to the scene safely not first. I know we all want get there quickly but slowing down won't make that big a difference when you consider how adversly you will affect the scene when you don't get there. First you take yourself and those riding with you out of the game, second you put civilians not involved in danger, and lastly you will take other companies out of the response because they have to tend to you. Slow down and save lives.

Comment by drew on March 30, 2011 at 2:05pm

Found this on the web thankfully they had their seatbelts on:

ASHLEY, Ind. (Indiana's NewsCenter) - Two firemen came away with only minor injuries after their fire truck overturned at the intersection of State Street and Grand Avenue on Friday night.

At 7:38 p.m., Christopher T. Kimmel, 22, from Ashley was driving a 2005 Kenworth tanker truck along with his passenger, Matthew A. Pettit, 38, also from Ashley. The two men were on their way to a house fire near Pleasant Lake when the truck overturned.

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Steuben County Sheriff's Office said the accident did not occur under adverse weather conditions, no other vehicles were involved and both men were wearing seatbelts, contributing to only minor injuries in the accident.

Kimmel had some minor abrasions and Pettit suffered pain to his right arm. Both were transported to DeKalb Memorial Hospital by Steuben County EMS for medical treatment.

Assisting in the investigation were the Ashley Fire Department, the Ashley Police Department, the Hudson Police Department and Steuben County EMS.

Comment by Firedog on March 30, 2011 at 12:59pm

If they had been going slow enough to take the turn they would have made it , car there or not, hope everyone was okay... Slow down no scene is worth getting hurt or killed over!!

Comment by Fireman Larry on March 29, 2011 at 12:06pm

Oh yeah!!! They were going way too fast, not to mention, they were late on the turn, there was no way to correct it at that speed.

Comment by david littlefield on March 29, 2011 at 10:00am

the biggest problem with this picture is that the tanker should have slowed down before taking the turn...speed kills !!!

Comment by Michael Rugh on March 29, 2011 at 9:03am

It looks as though the tanker had a clear intersection but did not anticipate the car pulling so far past the stop sign and had to swing wider. You always need to anticipate the actions of others and adjust your speed accordingly.

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