Know Your Role on the Roof: A step-by-step cut sequence for sawyers & sounders

TRUCK COMPANY OPERATIONS
By Randy Frassetto

In the ventilation world, truck companies need to be proficient on all types of ventilation tactics. A fire department may favor one ventilation style over another (vertical vs. horizontal), but all truck companies should know how to do both safely because we can’t assume one style will work for every situation. Further, it’s important to remember that all ventilation operations are only as good as our resources, training and associated plans.

Keeping all this in mind, in this article, I’ll address effective ways to ventilate a panelized roof using a two-sawyer louver.

Sawyer 1, standing on a purlin on the fire side, makes a back cut to locate a rafter/sub-purlin that will be used as a start point for the rest of the cut sequence.

Sawyer 1 reaches out, cutting parallel to the rafter/sub-purlin that was just located.

Once Sawyer 1’s saw is out of the way, Sawyer 2 begins a mirror image of what the first sawyer’s cutting routine will be, ensuring the all cuts are connected in the middle.

Both sawyers cut parallel to the purlin on which they are standing, rolling one rafter/sub-purlin and stopping at the second.

Both sawyers cut parallel to the purlin on which they are standing, rolling one rafter/sub-purlin and stopping at the second.

After stopping at the second rafter, Sawyer 1 reaches out to finish the cut parallel to the inside of the second rafter/sub-purlin.

Sawyer 2 mirrors the final cut to complete the louver.

To begin another louver, Sawyer 1 begins their next cut on the other side of the rafter or sub-purlin on which their final cut was made for the first louver. (No back cut is needed because the rafter/sub-purlin is already identified.)

Sawyer 2 mirrors Sawyer 1, beginning the cut sequence for additional louvers.

Once the sawyers get two panels cut, louvers may start to be pivoted. Prematurely pivoting the louvers may hinder operations due to the vented smoke.

A side view of two louvers.

The Importance of Preplanning
The best time to come up with a plan is before the fire. A panelized roof system has more hazards than a parallel cord trussed roof, so a successful roof operation won’t happen unless it’s well thought out and rehearsed.

After arriving on scene, you’ll need some information to help formulate your plan. Get on top of the roof and see if structural members are waffling, how A/C units are arranged, where vent pipes are situated (certain vents may be a clue to what’s underneath them, like the kitchen) and any other pertinent information you may need. It’s a good idea to sound around up top with trash hooks to see what the roof feels like. Once you have an idea of the layout of the roof, go inside and see what you have. Note the ledger walls and see how many main beams are in the structure. Also look at structural members to see what they’re made of.

Structure or Contents Fire
After arriving on scene, members need to quickly determine whether they are dealing with a structure fire or a content fire. Read smoke, listen to interior reports and read the roof to determine if you’re working over a contents fire only, or if fire has made it into the roof’s structural members. In a contents fire that has not yet involved the roof members, flashover is the most likely catastrophic event, and effective and aggressive ventilation will help prevent this from happening. In heavy fire conditions that have gotten into the structure members, a rapid roof collapse could occur. If the roof isn’t tenable to operate on, someone must determine if it’s safe for crews to work underneath it.

When operating on a panelized roof with lightweight structural members, make your cut over pressurized smoke—not fire. It’s important to remember that although conventional constructed panelized roof systems have beefier structural members that will last longer under fire conditions, the weak points are the panel and rafters that rest between the purlins.

Pre-Determined Positions
Safe and effective operations on a panelized roof will need to be well coordinated with four crewmembers performing specific roles. The four-person crew can break into two groups of two, each consisting of a sounder with a trash hook and a sawyer with a chainsaw. Following are proposed roles for each person:

Sounder 1: This crewmember is responsible for leading the crew along the ledger wall and identifying the structural members that will be operated on. It’s their job to determine the location of smoke-indication holes and read smoke accordingly to determine the location and size of the vent hole. It’s important that the sounder ensure that all ventilations operations are being conducted from structural members. Once the hole is cut, Sounder 1 will assist in louvering the panel.

Sawyer 1: After Sounder 1 determines the proper locations, Sawyer 1 will perform the diagnostic cuts (45-degree inspection hole and smoke-indication holes). Once the ventilation location has been reached, Sawyer 1 will make the back cut to identify the rafter (also called the stiffener or sub-purlin) where the operation will begin. To prevent the two saws from touching, this sawyer will always start the cut sequence and determine the pace at which the hole is cut.

Sounder 2: The main function of this sounder is to ensure that their team remains on a structural member (this will be 8 feet across from the other team when operating on purlins). When Sawyer 2 is cutting, Sounder 2 must ensure that the sawyer remains on their structural member. Once the hole is cut, Sounder 2 will also assist in louvering the panel.

Sawyer 2: This crewmember will mimic what Sawyer 1 is doing, with the exception of the back cut. It’s important that this sawyer waits for Sawyer 1 to begin the cut and pick up where they left off to complete the louver.

The Cut Sequence (See Photos at Left)
Once the two teams have reached the ventilation hole location, Sawyer 1 begins making a back cut to identify a rafter. After the rafter is marked, Sawyer 1 cuts parallel along the rafter toward the purlin that they’re standing on.

Once Sawyer 1 begins their cut, Sawyer 2 can start their sequence from where the first cut was made, cutting back to the purlin that they’re standing on. This will give an 8' head cut between the two purlins. (Note: It’s important for both sawyers know the other’s reach so a complete cut is made. They’ll be able to reach farther in a more stable manner if they really lower their rear ends. Also, it’s best to use a 20" chainsaw bar for ventilation.)

Now that each sawyer has cut back to the purlin they’re standing on, the down cuts need to be made parallel to this purlin, ensuring that all cuts are crossing each other. Both sawyers will roll one rafter and stop and roll the second rafter for a 4' cut.

Sawyer 1 will then cut along the inside of the rafter that they stopped at. Sawyer 2 will repeat the same cut, completing the sequence for that one panel.

At this point, a back cut is no longer required for additional cuts. The next hole can begin with Sawyer 1 making the first cut on the other side of the rafter on which their previous hole just ended.

Try to let the sawyers cut two panels before louvering begins. This way, you’re not blinding them with smoke and introducing an influx of heat into the operation.

Once the ventilation operation is complete, the sawyer and sounders switch tools so that the sawyers can now lead the crew off the roof in the same direction that they first approached it. Smoke-indication holes should be monitored during the entire operation, and a second means of egress should already be established.

Summary
This operation is very efficient on a panelized roof, but it must be well thought out and orchestrated in a training atmosphere for it to be successful during a real incident. It’s a good idea to build a panelized roof prop so that the sawyers can get familiar with their cutting sequence and comfortable being ambidextrous with the saws, and also to ensure proper depth, with the ability to feel and roll rafters during the operation.

But ensuring that the sawyers can cut is just one part of the equation. Crews can also pick a building and walk through the entire operation, simulating everything from laddering the building to sounding out structural members along the path they’ll move across on the roof. It’s important that crews never “jay-walk” during any roof top operation.

Randy Frassetto has worked for the City of Surprise (Ariz.) Fire Department since 2001 and was promoted to captain in 2005. Surprise Fire is part of the Northwest Valley Firefighters Local 4361. Frassetto has been assigned to Ladder Company 305 for most of his career and he chairs the Arizona Ladder Operations Cadre, which represents most fire departments/districts in the state. This Ladder Cadre was developed to standardize ladder work and further training and research as in pertains to ladder company operations in the state.

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Comment by lutan1 on September 2, 2010 at 5:25pm
Unlike wildland safety requirements, we as municipal fire fighters do not wear 'chaps.'
I steered clear of the chaps debate, but it's a great debate to have. You're spot on- Fire PPE does not provide protection from saws.
Comment by Rick Burroughs on September 2, 2010 at 12:15pm
I would like to reinforce the fact that any use of chain saws must be respected for the hazards they present. But, their is a huge difference between structural fire fighting use and the wildland use of chain saws.

In the wildland enviornment the saws are being used to remove brush which is spongy and can without extreme caution "buck/kick" back on the operator if you are not standing in alignment with the bar tip. I too have witnessed an operator, in my former forest service days, having his nose tip removed after his saw kicked back on him. He was reaching with one hand with the saw at the time he was injured.

The difference from a safety point of view is that when saws are being used on a roof for ventilation, the saw is cutting on material that is stationary. The first safety issue on any roof ventilation is the ability to be standing on solid roof supports. Then, and only then, can a saw be used as was shown in this article with safety and professionalism. Can the saw jump, of course. Can the saw loose the chain, of course. This is why both wildland and structural fire fighters must 'train' constantly on improving their skills with saws. This is a learned skill that under supervision from training professionals becomes our bread and butter operations.

Now I would love to throw this out to all Structural firefighters for your comments. Unlike wildland safety requirements, we as municipal fire fighters do not wear 'chaps.' Every wildland firefighter utilizes chaps to prevent injury to their legs which, like us, are the most vulnerable part of the body when using chain saws.

I have been an advocate of this safety clothing for years and years because of my forest service training. Our structural clothing does not provide any safety from a moving chain during a missed cut or worse still a fall. I have never seen any statistics on this issue. I would love to see some comments about this!

Everyone please keep safe!
Comment by Wes on September 2, 2010 at 6:27am
Lutan1....Very important information you have noticed. Well there are times a right handed saw may be operated left handed due to obstacles; it should be done with extreme caution only when there are no options. I spent almost 15 years in the tree service and had to handle too many cuts much like you pictured; every time the operator forgot a cardinal rule. The safety rule I see most often forgotten is a "Hitch-hiker" thumb on the upper handle; in a severe kickback the operators hand needs to be fully wrapped around this handle to allow the person to hold on securely when the saw rotates then allowing the brake to activate. Look carefully at the pics; excellent hand-grip.

Randy...Thanks for some great information. Can I suggest that the operators also use a tool to get closer to the work, such as a Haligan spike driven into the roof below the cuts on a pitched roof? That would allow the saw operator to place a foot on the tool for better balance and not over-extend the saw which is an accident in the making. Pic 3.

A quick safety note from the tree service that might relate: Accidents causing injury of all types are highest in the 0-2 year experience personnel then after 10 years accident rates creep up quickly. I believe this study was done internally by Davey Tree Co. The end conclusion-Complacency.

Keep your edge, train often. Be safe.
Comment by lutan1 on September 1, 2010 at 1:51am
I've been teaching and using chainsaws (in forestry operations) for years and am qualified through the School of Forestry, here in Vic, Australia.


This photo scares the crap out of me- chainsaws are designed to be safely operated with the operators body on the left hand side of the saw. The potential for that saw to kickback, resulting in it flipping up and striking the operators arms is extremely high. This is a very dangerous technique.

Another danger here is if the chain comes off the bar, it will generally flick down and back up towards the operator. If the operator is standing on the left of the saw, the chain catcher (under the sprocket cover) will deflect it away from the operators body and face. In this photo, it will deflect it straight into the operators face.





In this photo, we clearly see an operator standing in the kill zone of the saw. The kill zone runs in 45 degree angles, left to right from the chainsaw and extends for at least 20 metres. NO person should be standing in front of an operating saw in this manner. I've seen multiple chains snap, resulting in each and every one of them flying forward for amazing distances!




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