Our FD is under fire. the local fire districts are having meetings to consolidate our fd in to the districts. the meetings are part of the Fire and First Responders study.  yes we know about this but our fire department has never been formaly invited to the meetings and no one has asked us how we feel about this or asked for our input toward it.

 

Also the only reason we know is because of word of mouth and interfire contact between TCFD volunteers and District FF, but again we have never been invited to voice our opinions. the final meeting is on the 15th of feb 2011.   after that they will be going to the board of supervisors to present this to them.  here is a link to the article: 

 

http://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/1225436/Fire-Meeting-Scheduled.html  

 

In it no where does it say that the tuolumne couty fire department is invited, even after the public anouncment of the meeting.  We plan to show up at the meeting.  At a minimum 1 officer and 1 ff from each station. Our department has 14 stations. 

 

Our department takes a lot of pride in being a all volunteer department.  We find it "hinky" that we were never invited. Its like alot of you have seen or been through. We as volunteers are looked down on by the paid guys. We go through the same training as them. When done with the academy we have a fire fighter 1 and first resopnder.  We are all the unpaid professionals

 

my question is what else can we do? Has any of you had this happen? How Did it work out?  any info would be helpfull. 

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I would check out what they have planned or want for your dept to do as part of the situation. I think I would bring more than one officer and a ff. I would bring as many people as possible to ask questions. I am a member of a volunteer dept part of a county system of combination of career and volunteer fire and EMS operations
We have a vol fire and rescue asso which any dept can bring as many members to a meeting they want if something involves their dept.
I know many times our vol depts have confronted the county fire chief in office about a issue they felt needed to be answered at these meetings. I know we drove a few of them out of office because some of them found jobs somewhere else or retired.
Most meetings of government can not be closed door. Meaning they are open to the public it is taxpayer funds and the taxpayer has the right to know how his government is spending his money. I would go find out what is going on for sure. I would have went from the begining. Sitting and waiting is never good in my book. Never wait for a invite if it involes your department then find out what is going on.

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I am a bit confused. You are a county fire department, and have the majority of stations in the county. You also have a membership of 119 including 9 paid and 110 volunteers. You are the largest department in the county

From looking at your link and the USFA info on your county, I have a feeling the districts with 1 to 3 stations are looking at ways to curb costs, join forces and provide a better response. They may not be including your department as you may not be having the fiscal issues they are as they do have more paid personnel to worry about.

Only two are listed as career... and one is the US Forest Service. The rest are combo departments.

Personally, I would go... listen to their plans... if they affect your operations, speak up. If not, don't stir anything up.
Accualy we have no paid. the paid that you see are cal fire employees. there on contract with the county. and only work out of one station. as far as money my station has been waiting for a tic for over two years now andi know of 15 people that are on the phone tree because we cant buy pagers. I do see where your coming from. i would like to know what there true plan is and why we were never invited. we had one person sit in on the previous meetings but he was tolld not to comment as he was not "part of the group". Thanks for the advice
John is right. The entire process has to be open to the public in order to be legal. Attend, then wait and see what their plan is. Our ESD took 2 years to implement their plan, which included a new contract and new money. Hopefully the reason you haven't been contacted is because you ARE the plan. I hope that's true. Good communication is important when dealing with governmental bodies.

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