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Why does it seem like nobody cares?
I am currently helping my chief at a FF1 &2 class. He has twenty people in his class, and only a handful really care to be there. It seems like most of them are taking the class because their chief told them they had to take the class before they can do anything on calls.
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Permalink Reply by Fireyladd - Retired Chief Sharp on
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Randy, well sad as it is until they understand what it is their doing and why thats may be the only motivation to get them to do something. And sure as heck they arnt going to learn what it is they need to learn unless they take the class. Ignorance is bliss, RIGHT?
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Permalink Reply by Randy Bawks on
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Right. Its just really frustrating,I am also young(been on the dept 3 yrs.)but i put my heart and soul into that dept. and i junp at the chance for more training because i feel i owe it to the communtiy i serve to be the best i can be. i just wonder if they are firemen for the right reasons.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon "Gopher" Runer on
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I am currently taking an EMT-Basic class and have found the same problem there. I feel extremely lucky to have the fire department paying for the class and because of that I have been studying all the time. There have been all kinds of problems in the class and it is so frustrating. My last blog was about the problems in the class. All I can say is good luck and hopefully they will begin to understand the importance of learning as much as you possibly can.
Gopher
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Permalink Reply by anne potter on
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Depends on the age of your group..Kids are different don't have the care level.. Sad ....
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Permalink Reply by CHIEF NORMAN on
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WELL RANDY I CAN ONLY TELL YOU HOW I TEACH, AND THATS VERY LITTLE CLASSROOM AND ALL HANDS ON...WHEN I WENT THRU MY INSTRUCTOR CLASSES, SOME OF THOSE GUYS WAS SO BORING, AND EVER SINCE THEN I DESIGNED MY OWN WAY AS AN INSTRUCTOR AND INTERGRATED MY HANDS ON AS BEEING A WAY THAT NEW RECRUITS GET MORE OUT OF IT THEN OUT OF A TEXT. AND I MAKE IT AS REAL AS POSSIBLE..BUT GOOD LUCK TO YOU BROTHER AND STAY STRONG...
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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Students that are forced to take a class can create problems, yes even on overtime.
Keep your head up, continue to serve, apply your knowledge and experience while assisting in the program and in the long run, the willing to commit will be certified and the negative one's will fail. Sometimes you can't save the unwilling...
Heres a thought for you:
You outta try teaching a community college fire science class filled with momma's boys who arrive late, with headaches, hangovers or choose to sleep through your class. I got so frustrated once, I took a break and announced that the tired one's should seek some caffiene and when it persisted post break, I made the entire class standup and listen to the remaining lecture standing on their feet.
Nobody sleep from that point forward.
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Permalink Reply by Doug on
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Your Chief and yourself need to get it through the thick skulls of those that don't seem to care that this is life or death to them and/or their partners at a fire scene.
Maybe pull a Mayday drill out of nowhere in the middle of teaching them something that is part of the regular curriculum to get the point across. See if they know what to do. Oops, too late, your brother or sister is now dead. Let it sink in.
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Permalink Reply by Jeff Wright on
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Those guys who don't seem to care will change their minds when they tests out. Watch and see how many fail. Then that's when you and the Chief can remind them about their action during class. Maybe they need to be reminded that nobody is born with the skills and training that it take to be in this line of work. If both of you are like me, I'll show you anything I know about firefighting,but you owe the respect of paying attention while I'm instructing.....
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Brown on
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Well Randy be thankfull you have a hand full to take it in and learn all they can and if its a young group well some times you have to teach it a way they understand like beat it in them lol but dont give up on the ones that are learning because one day they will be the one backing you up and in this class dont you have to pass to be a firefighter and when they fail what happens do they get release from the fire department or they just want to be shit house members and do nothing but still say they are firefighters .
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I think that a lot of them are young is half the problem. I believe there are four that are 17 or 18(two of which are still in high school) and another four or five 19 to 23. I was nineteen when i took the same class, and been on the dept. about a month. I made sure my homework was done and read the training manual. When it came time for pratical days I was always eager to jump in and do something,right or wrong. There is no better time to learn than when its not for keeps. We had one of our junior members tie a bowline for us before class one night,he didnt even know what this not is used for.We covered ropes and knots a month ago. Like we tell all of them when you are at home watching TV, take out your rope and tie knots,even if its only for a few minutes every night. Well its two months untill test time, so we will keep doing every thing we can do, if we have some fail,at least we know we tried.
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